Reality

lol bitchfest from a poor liberal, I'm shocked.

check the number of millionaires today vs reagans days

supply side was a freaking huge success, not sit on the sidelines and cry that it's not 100%
You can't win the game if your too afraid to play.
 
Means test it at both sides, the wealthy will not need it so let them opt out of it if they don't want it. Make a "self-insurance" plan that allows them to opt out without penalty.
 
King of Guns said:
Why should the rich pay more for social security when the likelyhood of them depending on it, or socialized medicine, is pretty much nil?
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Because they made their wealth of the laour in many cases of others. They would pay into a Health care system because it benefits everyone including them
 
King of Guns said:
No, it doesn't benefit them. The current system, where they pay for themselves, benefits them.
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It surely would benefit them as it brings down costs for everyone. Your insurance premiums and co pays are far more than those who have a national health care system. If there is one truism about the rich it is that they don't like to pay more for anything than they have to. Would you rather pay a co pay of $100 or $25? Would you rather pay nothing annually for your care in the way of a deductible or as much as say $5000? If your premiums to an insurance company are say $200 a month or that amount is given as a benefit by your employer which in the end lowers your take home pay or $60 a month as a tax? Seems to me that the rich would jump on the band wagon to pay less. So yes it would benefit them as much as anyone else. The US has the highest cost health care in the world. They are far from being the best when you consider the cost. The only area in medicine where they do rank highest is in the cost area. Do you like to pay more to receive less?
 
That's not really applicable since nations with a national healthcare system has a multitude of differences from ours. And even then they still deny coverage of any number of things.
 
King of Guns said:
That's not really applicable since nations with a national healthcare system has a multitude of differences from ours. And even then they still deny coverage of any number of things.
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Really? What national health care system do you have? I have yet to find something that they do not cover unless it is in the vanity type surgery. Such as breast augmentation and so on. I would like to know in which country you were denied what service? Thanks.
 
King of Gods said:
Is that all you care about, vilifying the wealthy? Same, tired old horseshit. :palm:
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Are you in the top 2% of wage earners or in the top 10% for that matter. Why would you go on about protecting them if you are not? They certainly don't care about you and yours. So why do you care so much about that economic groups wage protections? They aren't looking out for you in any way. It must be nice for them to have the poor folks watching out for their well being.
 
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