real racism

Taichiliberal said:
Please explain how showing a bunch of black kids a successful black adult functioning the real world is "racism"? What were the "bad intentions"? The "major" legit claim to "racism" being perpetraited on non-black students is that they didn't get to go on a field trip that day. If the intent was to have the black kids get a day off from school to solely goof off, then you might have a stronger case....but that is NOT what happened.

I still stand by my original statement.
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Leaving the white kids out makes it racism.

The bad intentions were intending to leave the white kids out.
 
It's very simple, but the liberals refuse to see it because they are too involved in being "fair" by being racist.

Whenever RACE is the basis for selecting who is involved in an endeavor of any kind, then it is RACISM. When race is the (or one of the) determining factor(s) of who receives a benefit, it is racism. When race is the determining factor who is selected to go and who stays behind, it is racism.

Liberals who defend these policies are as bad as any racist bunch of bastage assholes to hit the planet because they actually DEFEND their racism as "good" for society.
 
Good Luck said:
It's very simple, but the liberals refuse to see it because they are too involved in being "fair" by being racist.

Whenever RACE is the basis for selecting who is involved in an endeavor of any kind, then it is RACISM. When race is the (or one of the) determining factor(s) of who receives a benefit, it is racism. When race is the determining factor who is selected to go and who stays behind, it is racism.

Liberals who defend these policies are as bad as any racist bunch of bastage assholes to hit the planet because they actually DEFEND their racism as "good" for society.
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Republicans too. Damocles himself think affirmative action is fine, because he has daughters.
 
lol @ the racist call Affirmative action racism.
I see you guy's want to just say the slavery thing was a long time ago, the bus thing was a long time ago, the voting thing was a long time ago. Your on your own now buddy, why can't you compete fair and square with whitey? Got it!!
 
Topspin said:
lol @ the racist call Affirmative action racism.
I see you guy's want to just say the slavery thing was a long time ago, the bus thing was a long time ago, the voting thing was a long time ago. Your on your own now buddy, why can't you compete fair and square with whitey? Got it!!
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Affirmative Action is racism. You can think it's racism in the pursuit of a noble goal, if you're one of those "ends justify the means" morons.
 
Taichiliberal said:
See my above explanation as to "relevence" of reason (in this case, intent). As for "Classic Racist Behavior".....I assume you're working off your own personal definition of such as opposed to historical racist actions in America. Perhaps you should explain in detail how the black faculty member was "racist" to the non-black students in "classic" behavior.
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Racism is racism, the intent of the racism is immaterial and irrelevant....
any special treatment of one race at the exclusion of other races is racism....even if the 'intent' is innocent....
 
Good Luck said:
When the state - and that includes public schools - focuses on skin color, or allows groups to form focused on skin color, formulates assistance programs which separates recipients from non-recipients based on skin color, the state is, by definition, promoting racism. It does not matter which race benefits from the preferencial treatment, it is racist at its core. And as long as people see the state using race to differentiate people from one another, how the HELL are they "wrong" to do the same, i preference to their own race? (Again, it DOES NOT MATTER WHAT COLOR!)

The very existence of the "African American club" is racist. No, it does not matter that anyone can join according to the charter. The NAME implies who is and is not actually welcome. A "Caucasian-American" club would be assumed (correctly) to be racist with the same type of implication that non-whites are not welcome no matter WHAT the charter says.
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How many times do I have to post this. It's not called "the African American Club". It's called the "Lunch Bunch" and it's for students struggling academically.

Good Luck said:
The school was dead fucking WRONG with their actions. There is ZERO justification for it, period. There is no way they can legitimately justify the very existence of a club whose name implies racial-based membership. If their intent is to assist students at risk, then they should have taken each and every student falling in the same academic realm, not just a specific club whose membership has the same skin color as the speaker. They focused on race as a measure of special benefit, and THAT is the very definition of racism.
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Wrong. The name "Lunch Bunch" doesn't imply race-based membership. However all the students in it at that particular time were AA. Why don't you dig into this deeper and question why no "Caucasian/Other" students joined the group. Only 19% of the student body is AA, maybe the "Caucasian/Other" students didn't want to associate with them. Did you even think of considering other reasons for the all-AA membership, or was it just a knee-jerk response?

Good Luck said:
WHAT do you pea brained clowns think this teaches the children? That separating people according to skin color and treating them differently is ACCEPTABLE! As long as we have porridge brain twits willing to accept and even justify racist attitudes and race-based programs, then any and all racism in society is nothing less than an extension of what YOU ASSHOLES defend as acceptable because it is a "minority" being "helped".
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What I think is that the group self-selected since it was a CLUB, not a required program. What I think is that if the Spanish Club booked a field trip to hear Sonia Sotomayor this wouldn't be an issue, but the nuts in Ann Arbor had to make it about race.

Good Luck said:
Did it ever occur to you that the attitude that minorities need help JUST because they're minorities is, itself, rampantly racist? If a person needs help, it does not matter their race. They either need help or they do not. Accepting racist attitudes because the INTENT is to "help" some downtrodden minority is being taught as an acceptable practice, which in turn makes focus on race as a means of judging others acceptable, thereby making racism itself, acceptable.
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Does this mean you're against IB programs or Advanced Placement classes because a "minority" of brilliant kids would benefit from a bigger challenge?

Does this mean a "minority" of gay students shouldn't have an LGBT club where they can meet with other gay students and work together against homophobia?

Good Luck said:
Well, it is NOT acceptable. Only when our entire society actually develops an attitude that NO form of racism is acceptable, only then will we on our way to becoming a nation of true equality.
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No, racism is completely unacceptable but you and others are stretching the definition to include this club, or similar clubs. Those brave anonymous parents who whined about the trip should be ashamed of themselves. I guess they'd rather their kids were academically-marginal and taking a field trip, instead of the alternative.
 
bravo said:
Racism is racism, the intent of the racism is immaterial and irrelevant....
any special treatment of one race at the exclusion of other races is racism....even if the 'intent' is innocent....
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But the intent is to slam whitey for shit that Democrats did so its OK because all those racist Democrats joined the party that kicked their asses to end that shit. :rolleyes:
 
christiefan915 said:
How many times do I have to post this. It's not called "the African American Club". It's called the "Lunch Bunch" and it's for students struggling academically.

No, racism is completely unacceptable but you and others are stretching the definition to include this club, or similar clubs. Those brave anonymous parents who whined about the trip should be ashamed of themselves. I guess they'd rather their kids were academically-marginal and taking a field trip, instead of the alternative.
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Give me a break....

The club was created to help improve African-American students' MEAP performance but is open to any student.

That about explains it, doesn't it ?
It was created for African-American students....and saying it is open to any student is ridiculous...
Its like saying the Black Miss America Pageant is open to white contestants too....
 
bravo said:
Give me a break....

The club was created to help improve African-American students' MEAP performance but is open to any student.

That about explains it, doesn't it ?
It was created for African-American students....and saying it is open to any student is ridiculous...
Its like saying the Black Miss America Pageant is open to white contestants too....
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Sorry, I can't give you a break and you know why?

Because there was never a peep out of the Ann Arbor dolts about the existence of this club, nothing that made the national news. Note that the article doesn't criticize the existence of the club; people are just exercised over the field trip. If there was any legal question about the club being racist, the club never would have existed.

Now if you can point to something showing that parents fought against the club itself, and not just the trip, I'll be happy to take a look. But IMO it's nothing but sour grapes under the pretext of discrimination.

Oh, and I didn't make up the line "...and saying it is open to any student is ridiculous...". That was the school district.

http://www.freep.com/article/201005...ws/Elementary-is-in-hot-water-over-field-trip
 
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