Rashida Tlaib Doubles Down on Blaming Israel, Biden for Gaza Hospital Attack

Diesel said:
I'm talking about the people who reelected Bush after his fuckery had been exposed. Your "both sides" argument does not persuade.
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Of course. Run from the Democrats who let Bush do to Iraq what the Japanese did to Pearl Harbor. Your denials are one reason why I don't trust Democrats.

FWIW, I stopped voting for Republicans after 2012. I'd been concerned about the direction the party had been headed since Newt. When the Republicans passed on the results of their own Growth & Opportunity Project, I knew the Republicans wouldn't change so I switched to voting Third Party. Feel free to hate me because I hold the Democrats with the same disdain. :)
 
Doc Dutch said:
Of course. Run from the Democrats who let Bush do to Iraq what the Japanese did to Pearl Harbor. Your denials are one reason why I don't trust Democrats.

FWIW, I stopped voting for Republicans after 2012. I'd been concerned about the direction the party had been headed since Newt. When the Republicans passed on the results of their own Growth & Opportunity Project, I knew the Republicans wouldn't change so I switched to voting Third Party. Feel free to hate me because I hold the Democrats with the same disdain. :)
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There's that word again. You're not a very rational person. You're also an internet troll.

For the record, I'm not a Democrat and dislike both parties, but there can be no doubt that the Republicans are immeasurably worse than the Democrats. Democrats were not responsible for Cheney's war.
 
Diesel said:
Kerry was against the war before the 2004 election. Your and Cheney's hands are far dirtier than Kerry's.
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The Right always relies on half truths and soundbites.

Because it works when they're having their circle jerks. They're typically speaking with idiots.

Of course, they COULD always go directly to the full account of the issue, but that doesn't help to further their agenda.


In the fall of 2002, John Kerry faced a critical Senate vote on whether to grant the president the authority to use force in Iraq. Kerry was skeptical of the Bush administration's push to war and his speeches were full of caution and warnings about the risks of going it alone in Iraq and the risks of inflaming the entire region. But, in the end, John Kerry voted for the war resolution. In excerpts from their FRONTLINE interviews, former aide Jonathan Winer, New Yorker staff writer Philip Gourevitch, author and historian Douglas Brinkley, and Senator Joseph Biden comment on Kerry's Iraq vote.
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He would have preferred, like a lot of other people, the resolution that Joe Biden and Richard Lugar had come up with, which would have slowed the rush to war while putting the authority behind the president to get U.N. inspectors back in, to make sure Saddam Hussein couldn't use WMD. That was the point of the resolution.
The Bush administration wanted something more than that. They wanted something without any strings attached, so they could just go to war. John was [not] comfortable with it. Democrats were not comfortable with that, because they didn't want Bush just going to war unilaterally. They felt that was risky. John definitely was unhappy with that, and expressed it.
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He'd been boxed. The Bush administration had chosen to box him and all the other Senate Democrats. "You either vote with us, in which case, you're responsible for it, too -- and we're going to do whatever the heck we please -- or you vote against us, and allow Saddam Hussein to be not held accountable. The president's position will be weakened, the United States' authority will be weaker in dealing with the rest of the world, and you not having stood up for American strength." …
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Under the guise of Freedom Fries, fake patriotism, and Fox propaganda.

And 'slam dunk' fabricated so called intelligence. Probaby Colin Powell's most disgusting address ever to the public. He KNEW the fake intelligence was trash, but did Cheney's bidding anyway.

Absent said borderline criminal propaganda, the vote looks very different.



The vote was designed to be an impossible vote for someone like John Kerry. That's why the Bush administration insisted on making the vote that way. It's a vote either to support the president, or undermine the president as the president's trying to deal with weapons of mass destruction that may be in the hands of an evil dictator.
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Diesel said:
I'm talking about the people who reelected Bush after his fuckery had been exposed. Your "both sides" argument does not persuade.
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I shouldn't have started down this rabbit hole, but his 'dirty hands' comment reminded me that he was 100% pro Bush/Cheney. 100% pro Iraq war.

Now he's redacting Wiki to leave out the parts that don't support his point. That page actually refers to the numerous Democrat proposals that were voted down, as well as the lawsuits that were brought to challenge the illegal war.

I didn't notice any of that in the post?
 
Diesel said:
There's that word again. You're not a very rational person. You're also an internet troll.

For the record, I'm not a Democrat and dislike both parties, but there can be no doubt that the Republicans are immeasurably worse than the Democrats. Democrats were not responsible for Cheney's war.
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If you truly believe that, then why bother discussing this?

In 2023, I agree the Republican Party is worse than the Democratic Party. That doesn't mean I'm voting Democrat....which pisses off all the Democrats, LWers, LWLs, etc. It seems to upset you too.

As for the Iraq War, GW couldn't have done it without the support of the Democratic Party. IMO, the Democrats supported it because they were weak and cowardly. They were afraid of being painted anti-American. Given their history, I can see why. LOL
 
Althea said:
I shouldn't have started down this rabbit hole, but his 'dirty hands' comment reminded me that he was 100% pro Bush/Cheney. 100% pro Iraq war.

Now he's redacting Wiki to leave out the parts that don't support his point. That page actually refers to the numerous Democrat proposals that were voted down, as well as the lawsuits that were brought to challenge the illegal war.

I didn't notice any of that in the post?
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I read that Wiki article before he dishonestly edited it to soothe his indefensible position. We both know what he's doing.
 
Diesel said:
Althea said:
I shouldn't have started down this rabbit hole, but his 'dirty hands' comment reminded me that he was 100% pro Bush/Cheney. 100% pro Iraq war.

Now he's redacting Wiki to leave out the parts that don't support his point. That page actually refers to the numerous Democrat proposals that were voted down, as well as the lawsuits that were brought to challenge the illegal war.

I didn't notice any of that in the post?
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I read that Wiki article before he dishonestly edited it to soothe his indefensible position. We both know what he's doing.
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You two should put together a vaudeville act. :thup:

You're also why I don't trust the Alt-Left JPP members anymore than I do the Alt-Right members. Both use emotional arguments and bullying to get their way.
 
Diesel said:
There is certainly a very strong influence on the hate for Tlaib being related to the fact that she is a Black, Muslim, liberal woman who has power and a platform to speak. It drives the white, racists "conservatives" insane.

There is also the component that the Israelis can do no wrong. The people who will not acknowledge Israel's part in the unending violence perpetuate it and cannot be reasoned with.
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Wrong, little bitch. The democrats are the party of Identity Politics.

All democrats support Tlaib because, like you, she hates White Jews.
 
Althea said:
You have no idea what you are talking about.

This is way above your pay grade.
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I'm going to be kind and give you a second chance to refute any of my statements. Or answer the question "when?".


"100%? ... the U.S. sided with the Soviets and Arabs ... when Egypt stole the Suez Canal and France and Britain tried to take it back with Israel's help in the Sinai War.

Of course we hear about Palestinians getting killed. Every time Israel retaliates, the leftist media screams at the Jews.

Large U.S. military presence in the region? ... when? ... 2017?

German Jewish refugees were Shunned by the great Socialist, FDR.
 
Bigdog said:
I'm going to be kind and give you a second chance to refute any of my statements. Or answer the question "when?".


"100%? ... the U.S. sided with the Soviets and Arabs ... when Egypt stole the Suez Canal and France and Britain tried to take it back with Israel's help in the Sinai War.

Of course we hear about Palestinians getting killed. Every time Israel retaliates, the leftist media screams at the Jews.

Large U.S. military presence in the region? ... when? ... 2017?

German Jewish refugees were Shunned by the great Socialist, FDR.
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Revisionist history.

You agree that the U.S turned away Jews along with the rest of the world.

Baby steps. The rest is nonsense.
 
Althea said:
Revisionist history.

You agree that the U.S turned away Jews along with the rest of the world.

Baby steps. The rest is nonsense.
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German Jewish refugees were Shunned by the great Socialist, FDR, the CIC.

Next.
 
Diesel said:
I read that Wiki article before he dishonestly edited it to soothe his indefensible position. We both know what he's doing.
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Weekends tend to be when he does his best trolling. I don't know if it's alcohol, weed, or something else?

He's certainly capable of intelligent discussion, but opts for circular reasoning. He knows that he's wrong, but he just can't help himself.

Eventually it turns to custom memes and cute nicknames.

I even proved the point in size 5 font, but it seems to have gone unnoticed.

For those of us who remember what the nation was like under Cheney, history is pretty cut and dried. The is no room for nonsense.
 
Althea said:
There were plenty of them.

Nobody wanted Jewish refugees. Especially America
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You are clueless or a liar.

It was the great socialist, FDR, the CIC. The CIC that barred them.

Next.
 
Althea said:
Stay in your lane.

Perhaps a 'Sex with siblings' advice thread is more your speed?
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So you can't show where the American people voted to bar German Jews or put Japanese Americans in concentration camps.

That is because it was the decision of the CIC, the great socialist FDR.

Next.
 
ExpressLane said:
Those 2 billion Muslims should take their brethren in Oh wait! ZERO Arabs want the Palestinians. NONE.

They have Video that prove you wrong. Plus the rocket blew up in the parking lot and has a blast radius of about 100ft. There are several cars in the parking lot that are not destroyed. The hole in the parking lot is about 12 feet across. That is not consistent with a Israeli bomb. Israeli bombs they take down entire buildings. You are a moron with Nazi tendencies. And BTW the number of casualties is grossly exaggerated.
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See that's what Natty was hoping for, the Muslim community to just ignore the Pally ppl and sadly it all backfired....you do the math and I stand by all I said, so up yours
 
Diesel said:
Shut the fuck up, you KKK cocksucker.
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Question brain dead redneck....who was screaming at the top of their lungs, "Jews will not replace us"? Who is responsible for blowing up how many synagogues under Trump? I don't recall seeing Tlaib's name nor photo in any of these events, do you? Truth of the matter is this, white aryan ass wipes have made hatred of Jews a national pass time in this country and the only time you whores give a fuck about jews is when Israel is involved or Wall-Street Jews up the anti in your stock and 401k's
 
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