Rachel Maddow shines some light on the GOP/Paul Ryan's bogus budget proposal

Damocles said:
You believe that MSDNC has some integrity? That's cute.
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Hey Damo, if we're going to talk about the credibility of news sources, why don't we start with whatever shitty program told you that the Ryan plan is "based on recommendations from Bill Clinton's bipartisan commission on how to save Medicare?" And this isn't the only instance of you regurgitating a load of horseshit fed to you by whatever right-wing news you consume.
 
cawacko said:
I guess I could google msnbc lies and see what comes up but I really don't care. I don't watch Fox News or MSNBC so I have no vested interest in either station nor have any desire to try and defend either station. I see people get into these discussions which are basically battles over the two networks and then react as if a family member has been harmed if one says something bad about the others staion. If you want to talk USC-UCLA then yes I will get passionate. Fox News and MSNBC don't do it for me.
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Mott the Hoople said:
Not really. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and MSNBC decided to imitate Fox News, making them the defacto liberal propaganda channel. Meaning anything learned from MSNBC is as suspect as anything learned from Fox. Neither is a credible source of information. They're telling a constituency what they want to hear.
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I disagree.. in that, yes MSNBC tells it's viewers what they want to hear, but they do it with factual based information that they just have cherry-picked.. Paul Ryan really did vote for TARP. Sarah Palin really did say no prominent Republican has spewed the kind of divisive rhetoric like the Dems. Ohio really did curb (D) voting times and extended (R) times.. These are factually true. cherry-picked, but true.


Fox otoh, just makes it up as they go along.. or even better, they start off with "Why does Obama hate this country and want to destroy it.." and then go on all day discussing that opinion as if it's a fact and by the night time they've turned into a 'self-made- fact' and then say that.. 'people have been asking why Obama hates this country and wants to destroy it'.. and a week later, Hannity will say "Ok, we know Obama hates this country..we here at Fox reported on that last week, so is that why he is always bowing to foreign leaders?"......... they made the opinionated statement,they gossiped on it repeatedly and then they use it as a fact later on..but it was never a fact, it was always just an opinion..

or they just out and out lie.. like they're doing now with the whole "Obama is suing to restrict military voting".. no, he isn't.. and it's not factual to say he is...

msnbc cherry-picks it's facts to present to a liberal audience... Fox takes conservative opinion and presents them as facts.

they're not the same thing..
 
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