race riots after zimmerman acquittal?

[Howey]

I couldn't care less what drives Grind up a wall...

"(Reuters) - A witness in the murder trial of neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman testified on Friday that he saw Trayvon Martin on top of Zimmerman during a struggle that led to the unarmed black teenager's shooting death in a central Florida gated community last year.

But Jonathan Good, a former resident at the townhouse complex, told the jury in Seminole County criminal court that he never saw Martin slam Zimmerman's head into the concrete sidewalk, undermining a key element in Zimmerman's defense.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/28/us-usa-florida-shooting-idUSBRE95Q0EE20130628

Good initially told police the person on top was pummeling the other in mixed martial arts style, but backed off that account, later saying the person on top was straddling the other man, but his arms might have been holding the other down rather than punching."

Thanks. That's all you needed to do.

This statement:

Under cross-examination Good was asked why he had clarified his initial description about blows being struck. "That's what it looked like," Good said. But because it was dark outside, Good said "I can't 100 percent confirm that that was happening."

Do you know at what point of his testimony that was?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Lol, he admitted to shooting Trayvon, the crime was Trayvon was unarmed, well, except for his fists and there is conflicting evidence he used them.

Show where it's a crime to shoot someone that's unarmed.
Can you shoot someone to stop an unarmed rape?
Can you shoot someone to stop an unarmed kidnapping?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

They are not supposed to be armed and definitely not supposed to pursue a suspect.

that is flat bullshit. there are several communities that allow armed neighborhood watches and pursuit to alert whereabouts to police is not a crime. try again.

 

[Steelplate]

what are the boundaries of a neighborhood watch???????

To observe and report....period. NOT to put yourself in harm's way, NOT to be carrying a firearm.....and certainly not to follow a suspicious and possibly dangerous person on foot.

Read the rules.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Right...and if Trayvon experienced the VERY SAME FEAR OF BODILY INJURY when he realized there was someone following him, he had every right and was completely justified in turning and confronting his attacker.

you're a fucking leftist liar. numerous court cases declare that no reasonable person can assume bodily injury unless an active assault is in progress.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

"I wasn't scared when all I could see was his back, then he turned, realized I was following him and suddenly I feared for my life."

which seems to be a reasonable excuse for you when it concerns cops.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

George Zimmerman being the Neighborhood watch guy, cop wanna be should have known being in a fist fight isn't cause for lethal action.

Care to show a report that supports that this was a fist fight?
You know, something like Martin or Zimmerman having bruised knuckles or injuries that are a result of a fist fight.

So many of you are so desperate for revenge, that you just continue to make things up to try and make it appear that you truly know what happened.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Oh man! Best burn of the month! LOL

you're delusional

 

[USFREEDOM911]

If Zimmerman wouldn't have overstepped his boundaries as a neighborhood watch participant....we would have had neither and assault charge OR a dead person

If Martin wouldn't have approached Zimmerman and attacked him, we have had neither an assault charge or a dead person.

See how easy that works.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

According to STYY, wanting to settle an argument with your fists and not a gun makes you a coward.

you're a lying douchebag fucktard. I believe you were the one that stated that bullying people around with your fists makes you a man, but carrying a gun makes you a bully. unless you're a cop, of course, because that magic badge changes your status. you are the perfect liberal anti gun hypocrite.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Zimmerman behaved in a way that any rational person would expect to elicit a response.

Like maybe calling 911 instead of a friend?

 

[Steelplate]

If Martin wouldn't have approached Zimmerman and attacked him, we have had neither an assault charge or a dead person.

See how easy that works.

And if Zimmerman would have done what he was supposed to do, according to neighborhood watch regulations, Martin would be alive and Zimmerman would not be on trial.

Zimmerman was the aggressor...Martin was fearful for his safety and confronted Zimmerman.

If you were a teenager and some strange adult was following you around, how would you react?

The issue seems to be that you have it firmly planted in your head that Martin was a criminal, and in your mind..."innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to him.

Look, I don't think Zimmerman is a monster. I don't even think.he should be charged with murder. Zimmerman's crime is more along the lines of involuntary manslaughter. He should have stayed within the guidelines of the Neighborhood Watch program.

This is the kind of thing that happens when a person pushes the boundaries of their authority.

 

[zappasguitar]

How is that any different from all those that kept saying the dispatcher TOLD Zimmerman NOT TO FOLLOW.

And now they attempt to divert the debate into another game of word parsing grammatical sleight of hand.

It allows clowns like USF who are only interested in trolling this thread to avoid the truth

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Yes Grind, that is the issue. That's why millions of people were outraged. You're argument is childish. Certainly self defense is a valid defense. In Florida so is "Stand your ground' but it isn't the police or DA's place to let a person who just took another human beings life walk scott free with no consequences because they have a valid defense. Having a valid defense does not mean that one is either guilty or innocent and it's painfully obvious that YOU JUST DON'T GET THAT! LOL

So a single mother of 4, who shoots an intruder, needs to be arrested and held until a judge determines that she was justified?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

And we'll never know because Trayvon is dead.....

While if Z had just stayed in his car after reporting Trayvon and gone on home....

I'm pretty sure if I was walking down a sidewalk and realized someone was following me...and they kept following me... late at night... I might be tempted to swing first....

And if you're not near them or you ran and they no longer knew where you were?
Why not call 911 or would you just call a friend?

 

[zappasguitar]

which seems to be a reasonable excuse for you when it concerns cops.

Someone get STY some salve for his buttocks!

They appear to be a bit sore.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Someone get STY some salve for his buttocks!

They appear to be a bit sore.

please, your hypocrisy is blatant. you should open your eyes.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I think that fairly sums up Grinds position.

If that sums up Grind's position, then this must mean that you can show where Zimmerman yelled derogatory insults at Martin or proof that he grabbed him.
But then; you, I, and everyone else knows you can't.

 

[zappasguitar]

you're a lying douchebag fucktard.

I believe you were the one that stated that bullying people around with your fists makes you a man, but carrying a gun makes you a bully. unless you're a cop, of course, because that magic badge changes your status. you are the perfect liberal anti gun hypocrite.

You can always tell from STY's opening sentence just how pissed off he is...the more petty vulgarity...the angrier he is.

And as usual, STY ignores what I said in order to make up whatever bullshit he'd like to THINK I said.

I stated brandishing a gun to settle a fight is a sign of cowardice...settling the fight with your fists is a much braver way of settling a conflict.

 

[zappasguitar]

And if Zimmerman would have done what he was supposed to do, according to neighborhood watch regulations, Martin would be alive and Zimmerman would not be on trial.

Zimmerman was the aggressor...Martin was fearful for his safety and confronted Zimmerman.

If you were a teenager and some strange adult was following you around, how would you react?

The issue seems to be that you have it firmly planted in your head that Martin was a criminal, and in your mind..."innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to him.

Look, I don't think Zimmerman is a monster. I don't even think.he should be charged with murder. Zimmerman's crime is more along the lines of involuntary manslaughter. He should have stayed within the guidelines of the Neighborhood Watch program.

This is the kind of thing that happens when a person pushes the boundaries of their authority.

Understand...for several posters here, it isn't about Zimmerman or Martin...it's all about shouting down those dirty Libruls and their pathetic support of that filthy little gangbanger over the fine upstanding neighborhood watch wannabe.