race riots after zimmerman acquittal?

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Mott the Hoople said:
Wow....Grind your obtusenss about this case astounds me. Normally you're capable of some level of critical thinking. Now you sound like a 14 year old Dixie.

I mean you don't get it and that suprizes me that YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT.

Zimmermans being aquited or convicted are almost secondary considerations in this issue to just about anyone but Mr. Zimmerman (and Trayvon Martins parents). The main issue at stake here was that the morons at the local police dept siting a lame ass interpretation of law and letting Mr. Zimmerman just walk out the door with no consequences would have had essentially set the precedent in Florida of declaring open season on any niggers walking around your neighborhood. Which is why there has been such a public uproar about this case.

Had those idiots handled this appropriatly, this case would have never recieved the public attention that it has, regardless of wheter Mr. Zimmerman had been convicted or not.

So keep on playing the kiddy game. You're only just showing that your really don't get it.

Pretty embarrassing to have to put you in the same class as Bravo, Racist X and Dixie on this issue.
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While I sympathize with your words, I'm more of a justice person than a vindication person. Yes, the case was fucked up from the beginning, actually from the day the stand your ground law was passed, including mishandling by the Sanford PD and StateAttorney, both of whom are out of jobs because of it.

To be honest, the case at this point doesn't look great. As I indicated in Grind's thread, that could all change Monday.

What is paramount, is that the legal process is conducted fairly. Right now, I don't see anything more than a second degree manslaughter conviction, if at all.
 
blackascoal said:
I sure thought I did .. but imagine my surprise to see this thread with your name on it.

Should we be fanning the flames of hate, or should we do whatever we can to extinguish them knowing that innocent people could get killed .. innocent children could get killed?

I live in a mixed community, although more black than white .. and no white person here has to worry about getting up to find symbols of racist hate scrawled all over their house and in their yard, regardless of the trial outcome. We don't tolerate racist targeting of white people in our communities .. which is why many feel comfortable living in them.

We are so used to bad outcomes from the criminal in-just-us system that we expect it .. facts be damned.

The question I have is why are American white males so anxious to kill a black person for no other reason than he/she is black? Why are they so anxious for a race war so they can kill people?

It's the very same dementia that consumed Zimmerman. He didn't have to kill Martin, he wanted to.

I'm sure there is probably a tweet going around somewhere on plans to make replicas of Martin's head so Zimmerman's supporters can hang it on a wall. Why are 'tweets' ever important?

That's the trophy .. a kid who just barely turned 17.
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you think that because I post about a news site reporting that random tweets are being thrown out in the universe about people killing whitey and me preparing to defend my home and family is me wanting to kill black people? i think you might want to pay closer attention to your sig line then.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you think that because I post about a news site reporting that random tweets are being thrown out in the universe about people killing whitey and me preparing to defend my home and family is me wanting to kill black people? i think you might want to pay closer attention to your sig line then.
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I didn't see a news article in your initial post. I have turned off all signatures and pictures, so maybe I missed it. But I read something that seemed to be your opinion based on tweets you've seen.
 
tekkychick said:
I didn't see a news article in your initial post. I have turned off all signatures and pictures, so maybe I missed it. But I read something that seemed to be your opinion based on tweets you've seen.
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if a lamestream media deigns to report on it, then you'll get to see it. until then, I don't feel like hearing all the BS source ignorance.
 
Howey said:
While I sympathize with your words, I'm more of a justice person than a vindication person. Yes, the case was fucked up from the beginning, actually from the day the stand your ground law was passed, including mishandling by the Sanford PD and StateAttorney, both of whom are out of jobs because of it.

To be honest, the case at this point doesn't look great. As I indicated in Grind's thread, that could all change Monday.

What is paramount, is that the legal process is conducted fairly. Right now, I don't see anything more than a second degree manslaughter conviction, if at all.
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Well that's pretty much what I said Howie. I personally don't think the case against Mr. Zimmerman, at this stage, looks good for a conviction of 2nd degree murder eihter. Still, there's a lot more testimony to be had. So we'll wait and see. The imporant thing to me is that Mr. Zimmerman is facing justice. That's what counts and that's what I was outraged about.
 
Howey said:
While I sympathize with your words, I'm more of a justice person than a vindication person. Yes, the case was fucked up from the beginning, actually from the day the stand your ground law was passed, including mishandling by the Sanford PD and StateAttorney, both of whom are out of jobs because of it.

To be honest, the case at this point doesn't look great. As I indicated in Grind's thread, that could all change Monday.

What is paramount, is that the legal process is conducted fairly. Right now, I don't see anything more than a second degree manslaughter conviction, if at all.
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If they give the jury instructions to consider lesser charges, like manslaughter, then Zimmerman is still, probably, going to jail.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Does it matter what you think? You could give a shit less about justice.
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wrong. and I stopped reading there. I do care about justice, you are just biased to the point where you are incapable of considering my point of view. The point is I believe zimmerman is 100% innocent, and that trayvon deserved to get killed, as he was a violent assaulter. Additionally I see the trayvon supporters as idiots, as those not paying attention, not knowing the facts, not understanding burden of proof, etc. I want justice more than anything in this world, and that is going to be zimmerman getting a full acquital, with me rubbing it in everyones face as a bonus.
 
Pete Campbell said:
wrong. and I stopped reading there. I do care about justice, you are just biased to the point where you are incapable of considering my point of view. The point is I believe zimmerman is 100% innocent, and that trayvon deserved to get killed, as he was a violent assaulter. Additionally I see the trayvon supporters as idiots, as those not paying attention, not knowing the facts, not understanding burden of proof, etc. I want justice more than anything in this world, and that is going to be zimmerman getting a full acquital, with me rubbing it in everyones face as a bonus.
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You are so brilliant and smart.

I love a man who bring a gun to a fist fight, it is so brave.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
you just made up your mind
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I've been right about everything. I called this as media bullshit from the beginning, the media lied about trayvons appearance, using a picture of him when he was 12. You guys got fooled about the spliced audio that got the NBC producer fired. You guys kept saying "oh he has no injuries, look at the camera in the police station... no blood!" Then it was shown he was bleeding all over, so you mitigated that by saying it wasn't that bad. You were likely wrong about who started the fight (THE FIGHT), with witnesses corroborating zimmerman being beaten the shit out of. You guys overcharged him because of politics and because you didn't want egg on your faces. Now you've staked out your positions unflinchingly.

Last year I saw idiot after idiot acting as if they knew any of the facts of the case, while being wrong time and time again. They said it with absolute conviction. now that I do it, everyone fucking hates it (and I made actual threads about me doing this on purpose, so I am not saying this retroactively... go look them up). The silver lining though as after getting brute forced by me all the false fact speculators started dying down. Maybe this will teach you idiots in the future to actually let the facts come out before jumping to conclusions.

Justice is finally being served and Mr. Zimmerman is having his day in court, which is how it should be, and I can promise you this, he's not nearly as cocky about this as your are.
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I love this move the goal posts line. As if charging someone when you cannot meet the burden is appropriate. Now you can say "oh I dont even care he is not guilty I just wanted him to go to court." You basically say this to protect your ego from being wrong...
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
I mean you don't get it and that suprizes me that YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT.

The main issue at stake here was that the morons at the local police dept siting a lame ass interpretation of law and letting Mr. Zimmerman just walk out the door with no consequences would have had essentially set the precedent in Florida of declaring open season on any niggers walking around your neighborhood. Which is why there has been such a public uproar about this case.
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No, that's not the main issue, that might be an issue for you, but believe it or not, self defense is a valid defense, whether you like it or not. And stand your ground is a real law, whether you like it or not. And sometimes, when people commit justifiable homicide they are not charged with a crime, because there is no crime, or because the state knows it can't meet its burden, which is what they are now finding out. You dont charge everyone with a crime that shoots someone else.
 
Pete Campbell said:
he wasn't bringing a gun to a fight. There was no fight to bring it to, until trayvon assaulted him.
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You were there? You know this for a fact, seems to me the evidence is still kind of sketchy on this. Different accounts by different witnesses, so, at this point, I am still not sure who was the aggressor, but you must have additional information that I have not heard.
 
Pete Campbell said:
wrong. and I stopped reading there. I do care about justice, you are just biased to the point where you are incapable of considering my point of view. The point is I believe zimmerman is 100% innocent, and that trayvon deserved to get killed, as he was a violent assaulter. Additionally I see the trayvon supporters as idiots, as those not paying attention, not knowing the facts, not understanding burden of proof, etc. I want justice more than anything in this world, and that is going to be zimmerman getting a full acquital, with me rubbing it in everyones face as a bonus.
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That is hi-larious!

"you are just biased to the point where you are incapable of considering my point of view."


And you are every bit as biased to the point where you are incapable of considering our point of view...not surprising though.

One so self absorbed he couldn't even be bothered to see that a family member crying for help, got some...he was just too busy and couldn't spend a moment or two considering someone else's point of view.
 
Pete Campbell said:
No, that's not the main issue, that might be an issue for you, but believe it or not, self defense is a valid defense, whether you like it or not. And stand your ground is a real law, whether you like it or not. And sometimes, when people commit justifiable homicide they are not charged with a crime, because there is no crime, or because the state knows it can't meet its burden, which is what they are now finding out. You dont charge everyone with a crime that shoots someone else.
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They are not seeking the "stand your ground" defense though, why is that in your opinion?
 
Rana said:
You were there? You know this for a fact, seems to me the evidence is still kind of sketchy on this. Different accounts by different witnesses, so, at this point, I am still not sure who was the aggressor, but you must have additional information that I have not heard.
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And did ya hear the news yesterday?

One of The Zimm's main witnesses has RECANTED their testimony.

He/she now claims he/she never saw Trayvon throwing any punches.

We know new evidence supporting the prosecution won't change a racist like Grind's mind, but maybe the jurors aren't too far gone yet.
 
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Rana said:
You were there? You know this for a fact, seems to me the evidence is still kind of sketchy on this. Different accounts by different witnesses, so, at this point, I am still not sure who was the aggressor, but you must have additional information that I have not heard.
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Of course he has all the information.

How else could he presume to make such a ridiculous assuption as to whether or not Zimmerman is innocent?
 
You know, I have not changed my attitude, nor the things that I have said about the zimmerman case, for over a year now, but I sure do notice a definitive increase in hostilities and ire directed at me. It seems the closer and closer we get to zimmermans inevitable acquittal, and the more we are seeing the prosecutions case fall apart like wet tissue paper with the States own witnesses backing up zimmerman, team trayvon is realizing how wrong they were --- and MAN DO THEY HATE IT. That's the only thing that explains the increased frustration. You know your facts aren't holding up and you know your reality of the events is collapsing. Maybe you have even had an honest moment with yourself and pondered . . . "hmm, maybe we did go too far, maybe I picked the wrong side this time . . ." It's gotta drive you insane, you guys really really really hate being wrong.

Be mad all you want, I'm sitting here smiling.
 
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