Question - can any Leftwinger explain the difference between SOCIALISM vs. COMMUNISM?

evince said:
you fucks STILL pretend we are not a democracy here in the USA


you russians HATE Democracy huh
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Its you that 'pretends' The US is a "federal Republic" not a democracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

You can hold your breath until you turn the color purple (wink, wink)....but that does not change the historical and documented facts contained in our Constitution and history books proving the US rejected social democracy because of its stance on private property ownership and violent history.
 
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Ralph said:
One word and political theory.... NAZI PARTY: National "SOCIALIST" German Working Party. Socialism is common to both extreme forms of FASCISM...Socialism is bisexual bitch, she swings both ways, left or right. Why? Because all forms of SOCIALISM mandate the state ownership of industry and property.

FYI: The redefining of the conservative/right movement in this nation has been subject to a new left wing buzz word (ALT)....the old buzz words was so easy to point out the obvious self contradiction by the left when they attempted to paint the conservative movement as fascist Nazi movement...the old word used to be "neo-con" or neo-conservative.....an oxymoronic non-existent word. When its broken down it means NEO:Latin for NEW and CON: English for old...i.e., conforming to the historical norms of our society.

That is how the new left wing buzz word came into existence....they were getting tired of even the children laughing at their disconnect to logic and reason..thus another left wing attempt to rewrite the dictionary. Just like they have attempted to paint SOCIALISM as something other than the parent of Communism.....or the killing of children in the womb as something other than murder as the child is now redefined by the left as a "fetus"....a non living clump of cells nothing worthy of human life...like the left is worthy. That's the very definition of fascism...painting yourself as superior to other groups of the same society..i.e., the UNBORN which deserves no human rights because you are superior and stronger...

Now that's where SOCIALISM comes in as a common factor to Nazism within the democrat party. It was the Nazi's that declared that some portions of its society had no human rights and were not worthy of breathing the same air as them....what was that group within the German nation that was killed in the millions? Oh yeah....THE JEWS.

Your party has killed more human souls (children in the womb) than the Nazi's ever dreamed of killing....50 million children have been sentenced to death at the alter of human secularism.
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You never went to college, or even have read many books, eh?

United States Holocaust Museum

"Among the earliest victims of discrimination and persecution in Nazi Germany were political opponents-primarily Communists, Socialists, Social Democrats, and trade union leaders."

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007329
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The Nazis not only killed and imprisoned socialists and communists, but their mortal enemy - far and beyond any other enemy - was the communist Marxist-socialist Soviet Union, on whom they waged a war of annihilation.
 
Ralph said:
Its you that 'pretends' The US is a "federal Republic" not a democracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

You can hold your breath until you turn the color purple (wink, wink)....but that does not change the historical and documented facts contained in our Constitution and history books proving the US rejected social democracy because of its stance on private property ownership and violent history.
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dear fucking idiot,

a republic is a type of democracy


fuck you very much
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy





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Representative democracy (also indirect democracy, representative republic, or psephocracy) is a type of democracy founded on the principle of elected officials representing a group of people, as opposed to direct democracy.[2] Nearly all modern Western-style democracies are types of representative democracies; for example, the United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy, Ireland is a parliamentary republic, and the United States is a federal republic
 
The USA is a representative Democracy


lying about the terms being mutually exclusive makes you a fucking idiot
 
evince said:
The USA is a representative Democracy


lying about the terms being mutually exclusive makes you a fucking idiot
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Right...err...left, history and the constitution are wrong, as well as the federalist papers that stated this REPUBLIC is distinguished (different) from a democracy.

History teaches us that our republican form of government is distinguished from a direct democracy (such as Hillary won because she received the most votes...how many times have you argued in an errant fashion and told us that the US is a democracy and Hillary won because she had the most popular votes?)..... our founders had no intentions of constructing a democracy.

In Federalist No. 10 we find, "Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention (such as you arguing that this representative republic is a democracy even though history and facts prove you wrong); have ever been found incompatible with with personal security (just like you supported allowing millions of potential terrorists into this nation because of contrary politics) or the rights of property (socialist such as you invoke state ownership of everything); and in general have been short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

Right from the horses mouth instead from the wrong end of a Jack Ass democrat. ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Four_of_the_United_States_Constitutiona
 
we are a democratic republic fucktard


the terms are not mutually exclusive


I provided documented proof of these facts.


you provided mouth diarhea
 
Cypress said:
You never went to college, or even have read many books, eh?



The Nazis not only killed and imprisoned socialists and communists, but their mortal enemy - far and beyond any other enemy - was the communist Marxist-socialist Soviet Union, on whom they waged a war of annihilation.
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Of course, they also co-invaded Poland with that dreaded USSR.
 
evince said:
we are a democratic republic fucktard


the terms are not mutually exclusive


I provided documented proof of these facts.


you provided mouth diarhea
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We are a constitutional republic. Did that latest round of the electoral college teach you nothing?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy





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Representative democracy (also indirect democracy, representative republic, or psephocracy) is a type of democracy founded on the principle of elected officials representing a group of people, as opposed to direct democracy.[2] Nearly all modern Western-style democracies are types of representative democracies; for example, the United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy, Ireland is a parliamentary republic, and the United States is a federal republic
 
Ralph said:
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Your party has killed more human souls (children in the womb) than the Nazi's ever dreamed of killing....50 million children have been sentenced to death at the alter of human secularism.
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Oh, the drama!

Socialism:
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Cypress said:
Oh, the drama!

Socialism:
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One could believe that socialism (the parent of communism) is akin to utopia with the Nordic/Scandinavian nations representing "rainbows" and "unicorns"....IF, one had his head up his own ass so far he could examine his colon. In Truth....no one could afford to party with the fair haired lasses after he gave 60-70% of his hard earned income to his neighbors due to the redistribution of income ponzi scheme used by all left wing socialist/communist nations.

That's exactly why, as we speak, those same nations are moving farther right with each passing year. Consider the documented truth of what happens when this social ponzi scheme is applied to government.

It works well for a few decades because these nations don't have the expense of SELF DEFENSE....just like all children who depend on the TITTY...they count on the good graces of their mother figure global neighbors to defend their herds of unicorn's and their rainbow exhibits of art...not to mention those fair haired beauties that no one could afford to take out on a date because they have just donated over half their earned coin of the realm to BIG BROTHER then there's that 25% national sales tax (plus tip) to consider.

The facts are...such as this. Take a nation like Sweden, in the mid 70s it was considered the world's 4th richest nation per capita....as determined by GDP. Just 2 decades later (1993) that wealth declined from 4th to 14th in the world as their experiment with Socialism was proving to be an object failure in economics. Thus, the lifestyle you are attempting to portray today did not come about due to Socialism...it survived socialism as these Nordic nations are moving right as we speak.

The hard truth: Socialism/Communism is failing all over the world, thats why China has become a world economic power, they have attempted to mirror the United States in everything they do...economically. China today is a combination of Capitalism/Despotism...with Socialism having left the building decades ago. That's why the little midget in N.Korea is so angry, he realizes he's fighting a losing battle as his people are starving..etc.,

Continue to party and toke with your head up your ass for a few more years and see where the US ends up. No nation that wants to protect and secure its own sovereignty can afford the utoptian ponzi scheme known as socialism/communism....one can't afford to eat and protect when about 70% of the entire nation's wealth is pissed away by an elite government.
 
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Cypress said:
You never went to college, or even have read many books, eh?



The Nazis not only killed and imprisoned socialists and communists, but their mortal enemy - far and beyond any other enemy - was the communist Marxist-socialist Soviet Union, on whom they waged a war of annihilation.
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In Politics, Words Are Tinkertoys

The Nazis tried to destroy the Union of Soviet Socialist REPUBLICS. Since they wanted to kill all Republicans, they must have been snowflakes. See how that works? Word manipulation originated at your precious university, which is an obsolete aristocratic institution. Getting your mind waterboarded there is nothing to be proud of, so quit being so snooty about it.
 
The Sage of Main Street said:
In Politics, Words Are Tinkertoys

The Nazis tried to destroy the Union of Soviet Socialist REPUBLICS. Since they wanted to kill all Republicans, they must have been snowflakes. See how that works? Word manipulation originated at your precious university, which is an obsolete aristocratic institution. Getting your mind waterboarded there is nothing to be proud of, so quit being so snooty about it.
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Clearly....going to college, even if its a degree in Poly sci or Theater....debunks and refutes facts. Its the way the left attempts to deflect away from any debate where the facts are kicking their asses, personal ad hominem attacks in the attempt to belittle the messenger. Facts are not changed regardless of much one attempts to re-define them.

As far as College We are Marshall, Applied Science....with a degree in geological technology....and mining technology from WVU Tech. No.....I have not gown to college I lived and worked my why through almost 8 years of higher education during and after a military career. Of course, My or his/her (you can't tell if its male or female lefty) education or lack thereof alters the facts of history and science depending upon which lie (propaganda) they are spreading today

Ya see, the lefty's throw out baseless accusations when they are having their asses handed to them by the simple, objective, testable, documented truth/facts. Its Alinsky 101 1. Accuse 2. Attack based upon that accusation as if it were truth. 3. Deflect when confronted with the actual facts in evidence 4. Run like hell shouting personal insults over their left shoulders to another thread to begin the process all over, as if nothing of what they say or claim is recorded in the archives.
 
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