Putin is not "crazy" and the west misunderstands tis war

Hawkeye10 said:
Have you noticed that the "Western Experts" cant figure out what Putin is doing, so they assume that he is insane?

This does not strike me as a winning strategy.
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As long as they never believe that they can ' save the world ' with a first strike then the assholes can think what they like.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Have you noticed that the "Western Experts" cant figure out what Putin is doing, so they assume that he is insane?

This does not strike me as a winning strategy.
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I'm confident that the Pentagon and the CIA know a lot more about Putin than the public knows.
 
Nordberg said:
Putin's attack met far more resistance than he figured. He had real setbacks. In the end, if he does take over the government and jail or kill Zelensky, he will face an insurgency that will bleed his empire for years. That works like Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam did for us. It is the experience Russia had in Afghanistan. I cannot see this as a positive for Putin.
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Putin was too confident. Now he's hiding because he's afraid of assassination.
 
moon said:
The hope is that people support what's right and just , not what's served up as ' right and just '.
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Well, the Republicans don't exactly have a winning streak when it comes to supporting what's "right and just."

They attack climate science. They want to teach creationism in school. They burn books. They supported Trump. They attempted to overturn the last Presidential election by force. They hate gays. They want to outlaw abortions yet want no laws against guns. Etc, etc.

I mean, you know you're f*cked in the head when your solution to the school shooting problem in the US is to "arm the teachers." (Or, worse, claim that it's all a conspiracy, like they did with Sandy Hook, as a way to avoid dealing with it.)
 
anatta said:
Just two days into Russia's invasion of Ukraine, U.S. Department of Defense briefers were quick to claim that failing to take Kyiv in the opening days of the war amounted to a serious setback.

DoD briefers implied that Russia's offensive was well behind schedule or had even failed because the capital had not fallen.

But U.S. leaders should have learned to restrain their hopes after their catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Once again, U.S. and Western officials are falling into the trap of failing to understand the enemy and his objectives.

, Putin believed that the Ukrainian government would collapse once Russian troops crossed the frontier and pushed to Kyiv, and that the operation has failed because the Ukrainian government remains in place.

Putin certainly hoped for a swift victory, but he clearly was not relying on his opening salvo as the only plan for success.

Rather, the Russian military was prepared to take the country by force if a swift decapitation strike fell short.

This kind of plan should be familiar to Americans who remember the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

In the first hours of the war, the U.S. Air Force launched its 'shock and awe' campaign in an attempt to kill Saddam Hussein and other key leaders and bring down the government. Saddam survived, but the U.S. military was fully prepared to follow up with a ground assault.

A look at the Russian military offensive demonstrates there was a plan for a full-scale invasion, which Russia is now executing.

Conventional, mechanized warfare is a time and resource consuming enterprise, and an operation of this scope isn't cobbled together in days.

The Russian offensive is taking place on four separate fronts. On a fifth front, in eastern Ukraine, which Putin declared independent last week, Russian forces are tying down Ukrainian troops that are needed elsewhere.

The bulk of the Russian forces are advancing southward from Belarus to Kyiv.

Russian advance forces, including air, mobile and reconnaissance troops, have been engaged with Ukrainian troops outside of Kyiv since the start of the war.

A massive column of Russian troops, estimated at over 40 miles long, is just 20 miles north of Kyiv, and is likely assembling to surround the capital.

If Russian forces can take Kyiv and push southward to link up with forces on the Crimean front, thus splitting Ukraine in two, it would be a major blow to the Zelensky government.

What matters more than a handful of setbacks is that Russian forces have pushed 70 miles into contested terrain in less than a week and are on the outskirts of the capital.
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Admitting Ukraine to NATO means better cooperation potential from member nations.
 
Putin did this because there were no consequences for Georgia or Crimea or Syria........he did this because Biden gave him a pipeline.......he did this because EU needs Russian oil.........he did this because he believed Biden wouldn't object to a minor incursion........in summary, he did this because he thinks he can get away with it...........it remains to be seen if he does..........
 
anatta said:
The southward push from Belarus to Kyiv is supported by another Russian column, launched from the east in the vicinity of Kursk.

If this column can link up with Russian troops near Kyiv, it will envelop Ukrainian forces in most of Chernihiv and Sumy provinces, depriving the Ukrainian military of much needed soldiers and war material needed elsewhere, and cutting off the government from two northern provinces.

Further east, Russian forces have launched a broad offensive aimed at Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city, which is now under siege.

In the south, Russian forces, supported by amphibious assaults from the Sea of Azov, have poured into Ukraine from Crimea.

On this front, Russian forces have branched out along two main axes, one northwest along the Pivdennyi Buh River, and another northeast along the coast and inland towards the Donbas region, which Russia declared independent shortly before the invasion.

If Russian columns from either southern front can link up with forces further north, they would cut off many Ukrainian troops from reinforcement—one of the two columns has already advanced roughly 160 miles.

Russian generals have often chosen to bypass towns and cities that are putting up stiff opposition and isolating them to deal with later.

The systematic nature of the Russian assault is at odds with speculation that Putin has lost control of his senses.

Nobody knows for sure, but Putin's actions appear to be that of a cold and calculating adversary.

Dismissing his decision to invade Ukraine as a form of madness is effectively an excuse to ignore Putin's likely motivations and future actions.

Strategically, Putin's advance on Ukraine began well over a decade ago, when he invaded and Balkanized Georgia by recognizing the Kremlin's puppet regimes in the regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Today, Putin has calculated that taking Ukraine by force is in his and Russia's interest.

He no doubt anticipated that the West would impose diplomatic and economic sanctions, which U.S. and European leaders threatened beforehand.

Putin may have miscalculated Ukrainian resistance and the intensity of the West's opposition, but it doesn't mean he is crazy, or didn't consider the possibilities and chose to invade regardless.

It remains to be seen if Putin's plan will succeed or fail, but what is clear is that there was a plan to invade Ukraine in force, and that plan has been executed since day one.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ling-writes-military-analyst-BILL-ROGGIO.html
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This is rubbish. Maybe social media gurus said Putin "failed" but the mainstream press certainly didn't. Basically the news was that Russia had invaded, the Ukrainians were resisting more forcibly than anticipated but Russia heavily outgunned them and the outcome remained to be seen.

"The systematic nature of the Russian assault" is a separate matter from the question of whether "Putin has last control of his senses." The question of Putin's "senses" goes to his decision to attack his neighbor in the first place, and the international peril that predictably has raised, not the military decisions being made to carry out the invasion.
 
Jack said:
I think part of the strategy is to cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea. Plus, I think Odessa is 'Russian'. (?)
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no. all you do is split the baby in 1/2...
I mean this is the theory as what we can see analyzed by Roggio of the Russian strategy
 
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