PostmodernProphet
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Israel has had Israel since around 800 BC
Putin humiliated as Ukraine claims 409ft frigate 'sunk by missile'
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Israel has had Israel since around 800 BC
moon
Satire for Sanity
You're nuts. There wasn't an ' Israel ' before 1948.
Still, if you want to ignore modern international law- whose land are you currently squatting on ?
ExpressLane
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ExpressLane
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History is full of there being an Israel prior to 1948 Israel is recognized as a sovereign country by the UN so modern international law says the land that Israel sits on belongs to Israel.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Ah well, if that's the sort of juvenile comment that appeals to you;
'Snap, crackle and pop.'
moon
Satire for Sanity
Wrong. ' Israel ' is the territory ascribed to Jews- and other Palestinians- by UNGAR Resolution 181 of 1947
Argue yourself stupid- it's a done legal deal.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
What happened to the Hillbag's Russian RESET Button?
Back to Da Jews
Not really. The history of the region is far more complex. According to the Bible, and Torah, Jerusalem was the capital of Israel for about 70 years 3,000 years ago, and that is the entire history of the ancient Jewish kingdom of Israel. 800 BC would have a Kingdom of Israel, that would not be Jewish. The Jews were in the Kingdom of Judah, with a capital in Jerusalem.
There is very little evidence of a united Kingdom of Israel. There is definite evidence of a Kingdom of Israel, along with a Kingdom of Judah.
ExpressLane
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We need to put the word NUKE on it and let Putin know we have them too and not to be getting too cocky.
There was definitely a Kingdom of Israel up until 720BC, when it was destroyed by the Assyrians. Many of the elites from Israel escaped to Judah, bringing their writings, and traditions with them. This has led to desire for Judean to return to Israel, which also soon meant a return to Judah as The Kingdom of Judah was also destroyed.
Jews have a strong genetic link to Canaanite burials 6,000 years ago. It is clear that Jews come from that area, and have been there for 6,000 years.
That being said, there has been a lot of competition for that land, and there are a lot of historical claims. It is divided between the Israelis and Palestinians now, so it would just do more harm to move everyone around again.
ExpressLane
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Tell that to the captain of the Moshva. P.S. You will need a wet suit. The point is Ukraine didn't lie about the Moskva and they aren't likely lying about the Makarov either. You think any of those missiles killed anymore babies. That is Russian soldiers specialty I hear. Brave guys.
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ExpressLane
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And Israel was around long before 1948 you moron. Yes the Jews lost Israel but they got it back in 1947.
PostmodernProphet
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you skipped a few folks.......like Saul, David and Solomon......earlier folks like the judges.....and before that the patriarchs....."jewish" began with Abraham......though I did remember wrong, I was thinking Abraham was around 800 BC......
Really did not. They all existed about 3,000 years ago (assuming they did exist). If we use the Bibles as history: Saul was the first King of Israel, but never entered Jerusalem, and was not involved with Judah. David, who was from Judah, and did become King of Israel, but again not in Jerusalem. He would have captured Jerusalem from Jebusites(not Jews) early on in his reign. Then he and his son Solomon would have been Kings of a Unified Kingdom of Israel from the city of Jerusalem. Then Solomon's son Rehoboam took over and everything collapsed. The Kingdom of Israel broke away from the Kingdom of Judah, leaving the Jews in Judah with Jerusalem.
So if we believe the Biblical history, 3,000 years ago there was about 70 years of Jewish leadership of the Kingdom of Israel, followed by over a thousand years of Judah/Judea in various kingdoms and provinces. That history is a bit problematic, but is also very possible.
Sort of. Abraham would have lived 4,000 years ago, and would have been the founder of Canaanites. That would have included Jews, but also several other groups in the area. Israel and Judah would have come about a thousand years later.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Why have the Dems suddenly flip flopped on Russia?
From Obama's reset, to Obama's hot mic, tell Vlad I will help after the election, ... to Obama's not protecting Ukraine's Crimea, to Obama's "the 1980's want their foreign policy back" when Romney said Russia is a great threat.
cancel2 2022
Canceled
He denied the use of Novichok and Polonium 210 by Putin in England, chemical weapon deployment in Syria and now the war crimes by him in Ukraine.
