Putin Bounty on GIs- Putin Hacks US Secrets...Trump Does Nothing

Bill said:
Personally I have to believe Pomp........ He has zero reason to lie, & a lot to lose by telling the unpopular truth w/ trump......

I am surprised to read you defending russia, especially on this one
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Pompeo is a previous head of the CIA - he's loyal to the IC leadership..get it?
 
anatta said:
wtf is "lie" all nations "lie"
and that is a shitty/worthless metric

If you weren't consumed with TDS I'd explain the geopolitics of triangulation -but you are damn near a hopeless case
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Really?

"Geopolitics of triangulation"?

From a teabagger?
Like your dear leader does, with a tweet?
 
anatta said:
wtf is "lie" all nations "lie"
and that is a shitty/worthless metric

If you weren't consumed with TDS I'd explain the geopolitics of triangulation -but you are damn near a hopeless case
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Yes, they do lie, no one does it with more frequency than Trump.
Quantity doesn't relate to quality.
 
no worries said:
So, if China and Xi Ping lie so much, why did Dotard sign a bi-lateral trade agreement with them?
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could you POSSIBLY carry on a linear conversation without injecting TDS into everything?
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The US/China trade agreement was in written format, with enumerated steps towards amelioration for disputes

Compare that to the WTO -which Biden was a big part of bringing in China- where we file and win grievances but nothing happens
 
anatta said:
use of force is use of force .in no way did the invasion violate that -it gave plenty of leeway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autho...ilitary_Force_Against_Iraq_Resolution_of_2002
The resolution cited many factors as justifying the use of military force against Iraq:[4][5]

Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors.
Iraq "continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability" and "actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability" posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region."
Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people".
Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.
Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations.
Iraq paid bounty to families of suicide bombers.
The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, and those who aided or harbored them.
The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
The governments in Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia feared Saddam and wanted him removed from power.
Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.
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if you think we should FUCKING INVADE A COUNTRY AND LOSE OUR SOLDIERS AND HAVE THEM KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI CIVILIANS, EITHER DIRECTLY OR AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE....BECAUSE SAUDI WANTS US TO, OR BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE SADDAM, AND WE WANT CONTROL OF THEIR OIL, AND FOR LIES ABOUT IRAQ BEING CLOSELY TIED TO ANY TERRORISTS, ESPECIALLY AL QAEDA, WHO HATED SADDAM, EVEN SAUDI PAID FOR PAYMENTS TO SO CALLED MARTYRS, terrorists who died during an attack- did you want to invade them?

and you repeated these fucking lies as if they were justifications for a goddamn nazi like invasion of a third world country-

Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors. (a moot point when the Inspectors were let back in)
Iraq "continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability" and "actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability" posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region." (no, not at all. stupid shit lies)
 
anatta said:
could you POSSIBLY carry on a linear conversation without injecting TDS into everything?
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The US/China trade agreement was in written format, with enumerated steps towards amelioration for disputes

Compare that to the WTO -which Biden was a big part of bringing in China- where we file and win grievances but nothing happens
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it is part of the argument, trump bitch. if you did not want to have trump's baby so bad you would not object to bringing up facts about how trump bent over for the chinese asshole almost as much as he did for putin and little kim.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
if you think we should FUCKING INVADE A COUNTRY AND LOSE OUR SOLDIERS AND HAVE THEM KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI CIVILIANS, EITHER DIRECTLY OR AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE....BECAUSE SAUDI WANTS US TO, OR BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE SADDAM, AND WE WANT CONTROL OF THEIR OIL, AND FOR LIES ABOUT IRAQ BEING CLOSELY TIED TO ANY TERRORISTS, ESPECIALLY AL QAEDA, WHO HATED SADDAM, EVEN SAUDI PAID FOR PAYMENTS TO SO CALLED MARTYRS, terrorists who died during an attack- did you want to invade them?

and you repeated these fucking lies as if they were justifications for a goddamn nazi like invasion of a third world country-

Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors. (a moot point when the Inspectors were let back in)
Iraq "continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability" and "actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability" posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region." (no, not at all. stupid shit lies)
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ROFL whom are you ranting at? Not me - I wanted no part of Iraq anymore the I did of Vietnam
both were about "nation building" - i learned that from Vietnam never works

the rest of your unfocused rant should be directed to Dems who supported that war
never learned and then supported Libya. Like Hillary / Blinken / Biden
 
anatta said:
ROFL whom are you ranting at? Not me - I wanted no part of Iraq anymore the I did of Vietnam
both were about "nation building" - i learned that from Vietnam never works

the rest of your unfocused rant should be directed to Dems who supported that war
never learned and then supported Libya. Like Hillary / Blinken / Biden
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you are lying, bitch. supporting the resolution was NOT SUPPORTING AN INVASION, lying shit. it is so goddamn chickenshit to believe a republican president and his team and almost all republicans in congress all spewing this shit about wmds and danger and nukes and ties to al qaeda were not responsible for the iraq invasion, a minority of democrats in congress WHO VOTED FOR A RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZED FORCE IF SADDAM DID NOT LET INSPECTORS BACK IN TO IRAQ WERE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE!!

WHAT A CHICKENSHIT LIAR YOU ARE, BOY!!
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
you are lying, bitch. supporting the resolution was NOT SUPPORTING AN INVASION, lying shit. it is so goddamn chickenshit to believe a republican president and his team and almost all republicans in congress all spewing this shit about wmds and danger and nukes and ties to al qaeda were not responsible for the iraq invasion, a minority of democrats in congress WHO VOTED FOR A RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZED FORCE IF SADDAM DID NOT LET INSPECTORS BACK IN TO IRAQ WERE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE!!

WHAT A CHICKENSHIT LIAR YOU ARE, BOY!!
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supported libya? you mean like NATO did? and where we lost no soldiers in combat? and got rid of a punk ass bitch dictator who said he was going to go door to door and exterminate his own citizens like rats?

god, you are such an easily played republican bitch.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
you are lying, bitch. supporting the resolution was NOT SUPPORTING AN INVASION, lying shit. it is so goddamn chickenshit to believe a republican president and his team and almost all republicans in congress all spewing this shit about wmds and danger and nukes and ties to al qaeda were not responsible for the iraq invasion, a minority of democrats in congress WHO VOTED FOR A RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZED FORCE IF SADDAM DID NOT LET INSPECTORS BACK IN TO IRAQ WERE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE!!

WHAT A CHICKENSHIT LIAR YOU ARE, BOY!!
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ROFL @you trying to spin out Dem responsibility for Iraq.
It's long settled the Resolution was Congressional cover for what was being amped up war

It was the same when they put yellow ribbons on everything..sloganeering for war
Pretending the political winds wern't all blowing for invasion is just dumb
 
Vietnam
Iraq
AfPak
Libya
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^ all the above are at least in part about "spreading democracy". Biden isn't going to go to war for that.

But with Blinken in Sec of Stae, he can easily get sucked into a war of
"responsibility to protect" / the new neocon mantra started by M. Albright
 
anatta said:
ROFL @you trying to spin out Dem responsibility for Iraq.
It's long settled the Resolution was Congressional cover for what was being amped up war

It was the same when they put yellow ribbons on everything..sloganeering for war
Pretending the political winds wern't all blowing for invasion is just dumb
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Wow. 17 years later and teabaggers are STILL blaming people who voted for the war and minimizing the actions of the idiot who lied us into it.
Comes full circle, look who they believe now?
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
supported libya? you mean like NATO did? and where we lost no soldiers in combat? and got rid of a punk ass bitch dictator who said he was going to go door to door and exterminate his own citizens like rats?
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ROFL- so the metric for war is air power is a clean war?
That means you don't own the aftermath like boots on the ground -huh? :seenoevil:

So you claim killing Qaddafi for Hillary's negotiations for democracy in Paris (Jabril/NTC)
and plunging Libya into ten year of civil war - infiltrated by ISIS doesn't matter.. :palm:
because it was "clean"
 
anatta said:
could you POSSIBLY carry on a linear conversation without injecting TDS into everything?
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The US/China trade agreement was in written format, with enumerated steps towards amelioration for disputes

Compare that to the WTO -which Biden was a big part of bringing in China- where we file and win grievances but nothing happens
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Could you do the same?

Why can't you answer the question?

If China lies as much as you say, why did your dear leader sign a disastrous, bi-lateral trade agreement with them?
 
no worries said:
Wow. 17 years later and teabaggers are STILL blaming people who voted for the war and minimizing the actions of the idiot who lied us into it.
Comes full circle, look who they believe now?
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who's minimizing? I'm presenting the whole picture
Have I ever defended Rumsfeld et all?

This is about attempted whitewashing of Dem culpability as well
 
no worries said:
Could you do the same?

Why can't you answer the question?

If China lies as much as you say, why did your dear leader sign a disastrous, bi-lateral trade agreement with them?
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I already directly answered this. Your new editorializing not worth more of my time
 
anatta said:
ROFL @you trying to spin out Dem responsibility for Iraq.
It's long settled the Resolution was Congressional cover for what was being amped up war

It was the same when they put yellow ribbons on everything..sloganeering for war
Pretending the political winds wern't all blowing for invasion is just dumb
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who was president, stupid? how many repubs in congress did NOT vote for the resolution, along with a majority of democrats? there was nothing WRONG WITH THE RESOLUTION!!!! it made Saddam realize there were consequences for not allowing inspectors in, and it kept Bush and Cheney from acting on their intent to invade on lies for a little while...BUT LIKE KERRY AND CLINTON AND OTHER DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED FOR THE RESOLUTION THAT SHOULD HAVE AVOIDED THE INVASION SAID-

BUSH AND CHENEY WOULD NOT TAKE YES FOR AN ANSWER!! THEY INVADED ANYWAY ON TRUMPED UP BULLSHIT LIES ABOUT WMDS AND TIES TO AL QAEDA.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
who was president, stupid? how many repubs in congress did NOT vote for the resolution, along with a majority of democrats? there was nothing WRONG WITH THE RESOLUTION!!!! it made Saddam realize there were consequences for not allowing inspectors in, and it kept Bush and Cheney from acting on their intent to invade on lies for a little while...BUT LIKE KERRY AND CLINTON AND OTHER DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED FOR THE RESOLUTION THAT SHOULD HAVE AVOIDED THE INVASION SAID-

BUSH AND CHENEY WOULD NOT TAKE YES FOR AN ANSWER!! THEY INVADED ANYWAY ON TRUMPED UP BULLSHIT LIES ABOUT WMDS AND TIES TO AL QAEDA.
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Almost down to the last man/woman/whatever the foreign policy elite either supported this calamity or refused to speak in objection.

And of course the journalists were worse than useless.
 
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