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Putin Bounty on GIs- Putin Hacks US Secrets...Trump Does Nothing
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You are lost....Please sit down.
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Teabaggers are as lost as their dear leader and regime.
February 2003
HANNITY: Because you know something, Ellis [Henican, Fox News contributor]? We're going to go in and we're going to liberate this country in a few weeks and it's going to be over very quickly. No, it's going to be over very quickly. And what I'm going to tell you here is, you're going to find, I predict, mass graves. We're going to open up those -- hang on, let me finish -- those gulags and those prisons and you're going to hear stories of rape and torture and misery, and then we're going to find all of the weapons of mass destruction that all of you guys on the left say don't exist. And I'm going to point -- Ellis, don't go down the road because you're going to have egg on your face.
Hannity said on March 24, 2003: "[A]s we pointed out, this is a noble cause, and we've got to be so proud of these men and women and what they've been able to accomplish in such a short period of time so the weapons of mass destruction that we will be finding don't end up in American cities. And we applaud them all."
Colonel, the proof will be in the pudding. Because they're going to see that their country is a lot freer, they'll have more liberty.
I was a real believer in the Iraq War, I still am to this day. I still feel that there were probably weapons of mass destruction. I do believe they were likely moved to Syria in the long lead up to the war. I think that that probably represented the type of weapons that (Bashar) Assad was using against his own people when, of course, Obama drew that infamous red line in the sand.
Charles Krauthammer
Iran is not a ready candidate for the blunt instrument of American power, because it is in the grips of a revolution from below. We can best accelerate that revolution by the power of example and success: Overthrowing neighboring radical regimes shows the fragility of dictatorship, challenges the mullahs' mandate from heaven and thus encourages disaffected Iranians to rise. First, Afghanistan to the east. Next, Iraq to the west.
Time is running short. Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. He is working on nuclear weapons. And he has every incentive to pass them on to terrorists who will use them against us. We cannot hold the self-defense of the United States hostage to the solving of a century-old regional conflict.
Must be teabagger amnesia, they get that alot.
Up till Oct 11 2002 when the decision was made almost none of the foreign policy elite spoke up saying that this was anything but a great idea. They were of one note..."GO!". They as a group failed America hard.
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Yeah, inside the Bush regime.
I think the war profiteers were very instrumental in the Bush regimes idea to invade Iraq.
Halliburton
KBR.
Blackwater.
Titan.
CACI.
And this little gem, I never even knew about.
In my act of the play, the United States spent some $2.2 million dollars to build a huge facility in the boondocks. Ignoring the stark reality that Iraqis had raised and sold chickens locally for some 2,000 years, the United States decided to finance the construction of a central processing facility, have the Iraqis running the plant purchase local chickens, pluck them and slice them up with complex machinery brought in from Chicago, package the breasts and wings in plastic wrap and then truck it all to local grocery stores. Perhaps it was the desert heat, but this made sense at the time, and the plan was supported by the Army, the State Department and the White House.
Elegant in conception, at least to us, it failed to account for a few simple things, like a lack of regular electricity, or logistics systems to bring the chickens to and from the plant, or working capital, or… um… grocery stores. As a result, the gleaming $2.2 million plant processed no chickens. To use a few of the catchwords of that moment, it transformed nothing, empowered no one, stabilized and economically uplifted not a single Iraqi. It just sat there empty, dark and unused in the middle of the desert. Like the chickens, we were plucked.
What about all of the experts at universities and think tanks and so on....they almost were never found telling the America people "Hold on now, this plan is very flawed". Those who knew better refused to speak, and then predictably America ended up in the soup.
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"What about all of the experts at universities and think tanks and so on"?
Weren't in Iraq nor were they privy to the intelligence, that was available to the government, spies and satellites footage.
what?
you cant be serious?
ANYTHING we do on China is "overdue" start there , and then think how difficult it is to move Beijing -and finally how do we go after Beijing without hurting our own economy
Hoosier Daddy
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you are lying. goddamn, boy. try to think- blix and the inspectors were allowed back into iraq in November, 2002, about a month after the Iraq Resolution authorized force IF THEY WERE NOT....Blix continued to find no evidence of any wmd threat until they left in March right before bush illegally invaded...
President Bush delivers a speech to the United Nations calling on the organization to enforce its resolutions for disarming Iraq. Bush strongly implies that if the United Nations does not act, the United States will—a message that US officials make more explicit the following week.
Four days later, Baghdad announces that it will allow arms inspectors to return “without conditions.” Iraqi and UN officials meet September 17 to discuss the logistical arrangements for the return of inspectors and announce that final arrangements will be made at a meeting scheduled for the end of the month.
November 13, 2002: Iraq accepts Resolution 1441 in a letter to Annan from Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabr.
November 27, 2002: UNMOVIC and IAEA inspections begin.
March 7, 2003: UNMOVIC Executive Chairman Hans Blix tells the Security Council that Iraq's cooperation with the inspectors in providing information about past weapons activities has improved, although Baghdad has not yet complied with its disarmament obligations. UNMOVIC and IAEA inspectors had stated during briefings to the Security Council on January 27 and February 14 that Iraq was gradually increasing its cooperation with the United Nations. Yet, both deemed the cooperation insufficient.
The United States, United Kingdom, and Spain co-sponsor another resolution stating that Iraq "will have failed" to comply with Resolution 1441 unless Baghdad cooperates with its disarmament obligations by March 17. The draft resolution implies that the council members would take military action if Iraq failed to meet the deadline.
March 17, 2003: After U.S.-led diplomatic efforts to build support for the new resolution fail, the United States decides not to seek a vote on it-a reversal of Bush's March 6 statement that the United States would push for a Security Council vote on the resolution, regardless of whether it was expected to pass.
Annan announces that UN weapons inspectors will be withdrawn from the country.
Bush announces that Hussein and his sons have 48 hours to leave Iraq or the United States will initiate military action.
March 18, 2003: UNMOVIC and IAEA inspectors leave Iraq.
March 19, 2003: The United States commences military action. The United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland provide troops to the U.S.-led invasion.
Blix's failure to find real evidence of any real wmd threat was common knowledge, was discussed almost every day on real media sites. but not fox.
I am not sure what this obsession with WMD is, it was just one of many justifications given for the invasion and taking out Saddam, if you want to know what that was all about I recommend the following:
https://theintercept.com/2015/04/10...s-media-still-cant-get-iraqi-wmd-story-right/
My point is that the "Saddam has to go and Iraq remade into a democracy" plan was always idiotic for several reasons. This plan was made by people who did not understand IRAQ a lick, nor did they understand the ME.....a point that many hundreds of experts of history and of the region had to know, but almost none of them talked....almost none of them made any effort to keep America from making this blunder. And the journalists sure did not help, about all they did was repeat what idiots in Washington told them, there was little effort to seek out and evaluate alternative views, either from American experts or from other experts around the world. Had the experts and the journalists measured up we might have avoided this crushing blow. They who know but do not speak have had a lot to do with looks to be the collapse of America, they have a lot to do with the building ignorance of this society, and they have also modeled cowardliness.
NiftyNiblick
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Trump is obviously hugely indebted to Russian oligarchs.
That's his problem.
They won't assassinate him here--they don't have the balls for that--but if he doesn't leave the country, he'll be a guest of the New York penal system.
If he does flee the country, the Russians will not hesitate to kill him.
The Donald, it would appear, is fucked. Kissing up to the Russians without making good his debts is not going to placate them once he's out of office. .
That's his problem.
They won't assassinate him here--they don't have the balls for that--but if he doesn't leave the country, he'll be a guest of the New York penal system.
If he does flee the country, the Russians will not hesitate to kill him.
The Donald, it would appear, is fucked. Kissing up to the Russians without making good his debts is not going to placate them once he's out of office. .