Proof the Right Has No Idea What The Debate is About

ib1yysguy said:
There is no plan. And Obama isn't proposing free healthcare.

Why the fuck can't you people ever argue within the bounds of reality? Okay: restate your argument with these facts in mind. Republicans have offered no bills for reforming healthcare and Obama isn't proposing single payer.
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why, you just repeat the same shit over and over, and call that reality..
 
ib1yysguy said:
LOL

That the best you got? This bill was introduced in May of last year. It never made it out of committee. The Republican party never backed it, so it died.

Show me an option Republicans are pushing presently and I'll stand corrected.
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see what we mean...sheep
 
ib1yysguy said:
LOL

That the best you got? This bill was introduced in May of last year. It never made it out of committee. The Republican party never backed it, so it died.

Show me an option Republicans are pushing presently and I'll stand corrected.
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Right now they're busy fighting Obama Care. So am I.
 
Southern Man said:
Right now they're busy fighting Obama Care. So am I.
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Thanks for admitting they have no plan at present to do anything. Right now would be the optimal time to introduce an alternative so they could frame the debate that way.

Republicans. Have. No. Plan.
 
Because it and you retards on the left want to eliminate profits. My insurance co does not exist without profit you low tax paying moron.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Thanks for admitting they have no plan at present to do anything. Right now would be the optimal time to introduce an alternative so they could frame the debate that way.

Republicans. Have. No. Plan.
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There's plenty of plans out there, but the one I like the best involves tort reform, deregulation of insurers to allow them to cross State lines, tailor plan to suit there clients similar to life insurance, tax free savings accounts, deductions for wellness care, encouragement of high deductibles, and for folks to buy their own damn health care. In essence, the exact opposite that the O-bots are selling.

So right now, in the interest of destroying the Democrat Party long term, I'm having fun tossing them shovels and watch them dig their holes deeper. LOL
 
Southern Man said:
There's plenty of plans out there, but the one I like the best involves tort reform, deregulation of insurers to allow them to cross State lines, tailor plan to suit there clients similar to life insurance, tax free savings accounts, deductions for wellness care, encouragement of high deductibles, and for folks to buy their own damn health care. In essence, the exact opposite that the O-bots are selling.

So right now, in the interest of destroying the Democrat Party long term, I'm having fun tossing them shovels and watch them dig their holes deeper. LOL
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Brilliant. Keep at it.
 
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Republican health plan....

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Dj6PAC&usg=AFQjCNHNuydv6VRRZXJuQCRAyqnyeeP1OQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Dj6PAC&usg=AFQjCNFQrLxlaJ-76btdpIIC2iYz1ylLaw

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Dj6PAC&usg=AFQjCNEgXxGr9-zlqqH_8QzHSITiqBchfw

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Dj6PAC&usg=AFQjCNEK7oW3qqFv0iR3dXWvoSW8l3qgyw

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/07/sen-alexander-gop-open-to-taxing-health-benefits.html

http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/651062.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/gop-health-care-plan-lets_n_205840.html
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Some of those are years old and are DOA. The other ones are copies of the McCain plan to tax healthcare benefits, which you guys backpedaled on very recently when Obama included it in his plan.
 
so now the Republican plans have to have a time stamp on them..

it's useless trying to show someone who wants what they believe will be Free Health care anything...you will never change their mind anyway..
 
meme said:
so now the Republican plans have to have a time stamp on them..

it's useless trying to show someone who wants what they believe will be Free Health care anything...you will never change their mind anyway..
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They have a time stamp if they're already dead. Yeah. They also don't count if you guys have walked away from them because Obama wanted to include them - like taxing health benefits.
 
meme said:
so now the Republican plans have to have a time stamp on them..

it's useless trying to show someone who wants what they believe will be Free Health care anything...you will never change their mind anyway..
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We are waiting for the Dems to self-destruct.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Seriously. Go ahead and list the complaints you hear most frequently on this site. Here are the ones I can recall immediately:

1) It's single payer
2) They're going to take away your choice of doctors
3) It's socialism (unlike Medicare, which the government better not get its hands on)
4) They're going to euthanize old people
5) They're going to outlaw private coverage

All of these are totally bunk, but no matter how many times you shoot them down they get repeated over and over because the people who repeat them aren't smart enough to understand they're being used.
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Absolutely, they are not even smart enough to realize they are just being lemmings of the for profit medical/insurance industry.
 
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