Proof machines were manipulated in our elections

The subversion of the Bush DOJ was unprecedented.

Obama's DOJ will not be corrupt.

To say it will be simply because Bush's was is complete partisan hackery.
 
This is once again a case of "proof" not being "proof".

If I show you how to punch and kick it is not evidence, nor does it become such, of assault on your part.
 
It is proof that elections unsafe.

If you can instruct someone to manipulate the machines to change the outcome means they can be manipulated to change the outcome.

Now do you really think that even if it turns out that these people are innocent that no one in the whole country did that to these machines over the last 10 years or so?
 
It is proof that elections unsafe.

If you can instruct someone to manipulate the machines to change the outcome means they can be manipulated to change the outcome.

Now do you really think that even if it turns out that these people are innocent that no one in the whole country did that to these machines over the last 10 years or so?
Is MMA proof that you are unsafe? Is the fact that people are taught daily in Martial Arts classes evidence that you are in danger of being assaulted?

And I think it would be difficult if safeguards are in place as they are in my area, but that is using only my experience.
 
You are a partisan hack.

the proof of Bush's DOJ dealings are in the record you fucking idiot.

The evidence that Obama has done anything improper is in your dence mind only.
 
You are a partisan hack.
so are you, but gravy on the top of that is that you're also psychotic and delusional.

the proof of Bush's DOJ dealings are in the record you fucking idiot.
where did I deny that?

The evidence that Obama has done anything improper is in your dence mind only.
I am not the one that brought Obama in to this issue. That would be YOU in your pre-emptive strike of partisan hack defense.

You look more foolish with every word you type.
 
personal insults in the face of facts is not the way to win.

Pretend that because Bush was a criminal willing to subvert the justice system in this country that that means automatically Obama will do the same is completet partiusan hackery.

I was right about these machines and you and your party was full of lies about them.
 
personal insults in the face of facts is not the way to win.

Pretend that because Bush was a criminal willing to subvert the justice system in this country that that means automatically Obama will do the same is completet partiusan hackery.

I was right about these machines and you and your party was full of lies about them.

ROFLMAO

we really need to find a pot, kettle, black emoticon because this post is just gold.
 
I posted a thread with facts in it.

Which of those facts are you now talking about?

Oh....yeah.....you are just insulting me instead huh?
 
I posted a thread with facts in it.

Which of those facts are you now talking about?

Oh....yeah.....you are just insulting me instead huh?

No, I insulted you the other day.

I didn't claim you posted without facts, I claimed you're a hypocrite for first wanting to have all the facts before passing judgement, then doing a 180 because you found out there were republicans involved also.

THEN, I called you out because you went right back to the partisan mode of labeling me a right winger, that I said Bush did nothing wrong with the DOJ (which I never discussed anyway) and that you flatly declared Obama would never do such a thing, and without any proof to the contrary.

You're spinning around in circles. It's quite hilarious actually.
 
So you insult me for not wanting to just ASSUME they were all dems.

no, I insulted you because as soon as you found out there were two republicans involved and that clay county KY is a large republican county, you were all about the Bush DOJ and that would soon be taken care of by Obama, then everyone else was a rightwinger and slamming Obama for trumping the DOJ like bush did, and who knows what other insanity you were referring to.
 
I posted a thread with facts in it.

Which of those facts are you now talking about?

Oh....yeah.....you are just insulting me instead huh?

You are the worse liar Desh. You posted an article that had allegations in them, not facts. Stick to talking about how much you love your party while accusing others of putting party over country. That at least brings humor to your posts. What you've posted on this thread is just disturbing.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29778909/



Clay County Circuit Court Judge Russell Cletus Maricle, 65, and school superintendent Douglas C. Adams, 57, allegedly used their status in the county to influence the appointment of corrupt members to the Clay County Board of Election Officials and caused election officers to commit acts of extortion, mail fraud, and bribery. Maricle also allegedly instructed a witness to testify falsely before a federal grand jury in Lexington.
Clay County Clerk, Freddy Thompson, 45, allegedly provided money to election officers to be distributed by the officers to buy votes and he also instructed officers how to change votes at the voting machine. The indictment also accused Thompson of a false testimony before a grand jury in Lexington.
Election officer William E. Stivers, 56, allegedly marked votes or issued tickets to voters who had sold their votes and changed votes at the voting machine. Stivers also allegedly instructed a witness to testify falsely before a federal grand jury.
Paul E. Bishop, 60, allegedly marked voters or issued tickets to voters who sold their votes and he also hosted alleged meetings at his home where money was pooled together by candidates and distributed to election officers, including himself. He was also accused of instructing the officers how to change votes at the voting machine.
William B. Morris, 66, and Debra L. Morris, 49, distributed funds pooled by the members of the scheme in order to buy votes. The couple owned and operated a transportation sanitation company and was active in the political affairs of Clay County.

As I'm sure you already know, I'm with you on this, but after years of fighting this battle I'm simply too tired of it .. and too disgusted with the ignorance of people who argue against it. I must have been the first person in Georgia to start publicy screaming about it and I've done more interviews, town hall meetings, documentaries, panel discussions, and oped articles on the issue than I ever care to do again.

Far too many dumbed-down Americans would rather play gotcha' politics than address one of the most crucial issues staring us right in the face. In fact, in a democracy there can be no more critical element of it then the integrity of the vote.

There is a shitload of evidence that demonstrates the vulnerability of our election system and the manipulation of vote results. For years, information technology experts have been screaming at the top of their lungs about the third-world software use that is designed for fraud.

The Leon County, Florida Hack should have set off alarms all over the country and made Americans demand transparenvy an integrity in our vote.

Venezuela has more integrity in their election system than the United States and Brazil has the best in the world.

With the plethora of evidence, data, studies,and information available of how vulnerable our system is .. if the dumbed-down haven't figured it out by now, they never will.
 
You are the worse liar Desh. You posted an article that had allegations in them, not facts. Stick to talking about how much you love your party while accusing others of putting party over country. That at least brings humor to your posts. What you've posted on this thread is just disturbing.


Have you seen the evidence?

how can you say that.
 
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