Police engaged gunman BEFORE he got into the building

Thank you for putting me on ignore, Earl. If you would just put everyone on ignore, no one would see your posts and the mean IQ of JPP would increase 100 points.
 
So the updates. The guy was outside the school shooting at people for 12 min. The cops arrived, were shot at, then ran away. Then the asshole walked through an unlocked door, unchallenged by anyone and opened fire, entering and killing victims in several rooms, not just one.

The TX police are either lying or totally incompetent. Neither is good.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
another Jarot thread that did not survive the arrival of facts.......
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Those poor cowardly cops they're gonna have to split down now. Those good work guys with guns that you guys always say are going to prevent these things. I just have to shake my Anyway by trol
 
volsrock said:
so the cops can read minds and know where fleeing suspect is headed?

and see though the car and see the AR-15
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A witness said Ramos got out of the car with two long guns and a bag and headed towards the school. If I was a policeman in the area and saw what the witness saw, damn straight I would fire on the individual. I would do what I could to stop him from entering the school.

I wonder if there were police reports with his description, because he had shot his grandmother and it was a small town.

There seems to be a lot of questions that need to be answered.
 
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A BARRICADE NOW. I THINK THE COPS, WHO HAD ENTERED THE SCHOOL DURING THE SHOOTING TO EVACUATE STUDENTS WERE ORDERED TO STAND DOWN.

THE VICTIMS WERE LATINO. MOST OF THE COPS, AT LEAST THE ONES IN CHARGE APPEAR TO ALL BE WHITE. I CAN'T BE THE FIRST ONE TO NOTICE THIS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SUCH A FUCKING MESS. WORSE THAN FERGUSON.
 
Phantasmal said:
A witness said Ramos got out of the car with two long guns and a bag and headed towards the school. If I was a policeman in the area and saw what the witness saw, damn straight I would fire on the individual. I would do what I could to stop him from entering the school.

I wonder if there were police reports with his description, because he had shot his grandmother and it was a small town.

There seems to be a lot of questions that need to be answered.
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There are indeed. Why were cops hunkering down when someone was shooting 4th graders and calling the Border Patrol to bring in a swat team for one, why do we pay cops if they have to call the "real" cops when there is danger? Don't we pay these people to put themselves in the line of fire? Who thought this was a good idea? What kind of person gave the order? Would I have followed that order if I was one of the cops? These are several questions I would ask...
 
I read an article this morning that said that the border patrol agent who killed the shooter was not part of a SWAT team, but was off duty and had a kid in that school...........which now begs the question of did all he have to do was flash a badge to go in to the school while other parents were being held back?
 
Damocles said:
There are indeed. Why were cops hunkering down when someone was shooting 4th graders and calling the Border Patrol to bring in a swat team for one, why do we pay cops if they have to call the "real" cops when there is danger? Don't we pay these people to put themselves in the line of fire? Who thought this was a good idea? What kind of person gave the order? Would I have followed that order if I was one of the cops? These are several questions I would ask...
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Please see post #70. I feel a dread coming. These kids were Latino. The cop bosses were white. I think this is going to be Kenosha, Ferguson, and Watts on steroids. This is going to be bad. I feel it is.

Tell me I'm wrong, and please be right.
 
Jarod said:
You cant wear a mask, but you want the school hardened... What does that even mean.

I was at my kids elementary school today. Its getting harder and harder to get in, and PARENTS need to get in and be a part of it. Having to limit access is harming our children much more than restricting access to AR-15.
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Asshole: I am wearing a mask right now, are you?
How is that even relevant?
 
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Jarod said:
You cant wear a mask, but you want the school hardened... What does that even mean.

I was at my kids elementary school today. Its getting harder and harder to get in, and PARENTS need to get in and be a part of it. Having to limit access is harming our children much more than restricting access to AR-15.
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Asshole: I am wearing a mask right now, are you?
How is that even relevant?
 
Damocles said:
There are indeed. Why were cops hunkering down when someone was shooting 4th graders and calling the Border Patrol to bring in a swat team for one, why do we pay cops if they have to call the "real" cops when there is danger? Don't we pay these people to put themselves in the line of fire? Who thought this was a good idea? What kind of person gave the order? Would I have followed that order if I was one of the cops? These are several questions I would ask...
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ikf the cops had no body armor, they couldnt get thru the door. they tried.
 
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