floridafan
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Trump wants it his way or no way, you cant negotiate with that. He desperately needs the wall, not because of any problems on the border, but to keep Hannity, Coulter and the like from trashing him.
Pelosi responds to Trump, says she won’t allow State of the Union during shutdown
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Trump wants it his way or no way, you cant negotiate with that. He desperately needs the wall, not because of any problems on the border, but to keep Hannity, Coulter and the like from trashing him.
Darth Omar
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Translation: give up on the wall.
he has compromised!
How many times has Trump tried to advance negotiations? he's come up with a proposal.
He's said he's flexible.
"Trump's shutdown" is clinging to the notion as if was back before Christmas and both parties were intransigent.
Only Pelosi wants to keep her feet in concrete
floridafan
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Back in December Trump agreed to funding the government and receiving 1.3 trillion for "border security". Then the attacks came from the right wing accusing him of not getting money for the wall. So he went back on his agreement with congress and demanded the 5.7 billion. It dont work that way
Trump should drive to the Capitol Teus night 8PM. Get out of the limo and pound on the door.
Then give the speech from the Capitol steps. then nail the speech to the door a la Martin Luther.
These guys have no sense of political theater. It would shake up the narrative
Then give the speech from the Capitol steps. then nail the speech to the door a la Martin Luther.
These guys have no sense of political theater. It would shake up the narrative
cancel2 2022
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The 95 Theses mark II.
cancel2 2022
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You don't really understand how politics works, do you? I
It would be a waste of time. You know damn well Democrats have already planned another vacation to Puerto Rico or something. God forbid they would actually be in DC doing something.
floridafan
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you need a wayback machine
You need to face the truth. Everything that trump says is a self serving lie. There is zero need for a wall.
Pelosi DID NOT SAY SHE WOULD NOT NEGOTIATE...
...IN FACT SHE SPECIFICALLY SAID SHE WOULD.
But not until after the government was re-opened.
Trump asked if she was going to give him his wall...and she said no. She has told him all along that he is NOT GOING TO GET THAT WALL. But that does not mean she is unwilling to negotiate.
Border security can be negotiated without him getting his idiotic wall.
She is willing to negotiate. He is the one unwilling to negotiate. He demands that he get his wall.
He is not going to get it...any more than he is going to make Mexico pay for the goddam thing.
Althea
Althea told me...
The idiot doesn't even realize when he's met his match. He's afraid of strong women, and he's clueless about the way our govt. works.Trump looks like he's been Kicked in the Nuts by some 4" Pumps
He shut down the govt. There's no need for a state of the union. The union is closed for business, and our former allies cannot wait for Nov. 2020
Althea
Althea told me...
He didn't really type 'trying to negotiate', did he?
Althea
Althea told me...
And taking credit for Obama's accomplishments...again.WE ALREADY KNOW THE SOTU ... it's not like it's a mystery
What? You want a Hour of Trump Blowing Smoke Up your Ass and Saying Everything Better than Ever?
grotesque misunderstanding of the SOTU and the PARTIAL SHUTDOWN.
what an idiot...ya it's all about "strong women"
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Apart from the pissing contest aspect, Nancy has reason to fear Trump getting to air a national speech where he can frame the debate. That’s the subtext to this thing.
sure.
But it's an object lesson for Democratic (Pelosi) intransigence as well
Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens.
https://crimeresearch.org/2018/01/impact-illegal-aliens-crime-rates/
Link emerging between illegal immigration and infectious disease outbreaks across America
https://www.naturalnews.com/052527_illegal_immigration_measles_infectious_disease.html#
Could an Outbreak of Deadly Disease Happen Here?
Unfortunately, the answer is “Yes, it could happen here.” Germany provides a good case study. It is a developed nation whose healthcare system and immigration policies are comparable to those of the United States.
Germany recently accepted roughly two million refugees with minimal security vetting and virtually no health screening.[5] The majority of people relocated to Germany in this wave of migrants come from countries in the developing world that are currently experiencing social and political conflicts that make the delivery of medical services and the maintenance of basic sanitation services difficult, if not impossible. Their arrival without proper medical screening has had a negative effect on Germany’s health and welfare.
The Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany’s equivalent of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), is responsible for monitoring infectious diseases managing outbreaks. RKI recently reported a significant increase in communicable diseases across Germany.[6] In its annual report on “Infectious Disease Epidemiology in Germany,” the institute concluded that recent increases in dengue fever, Hantavirus, hemorrhagic fever, malaria, tuberculosis and other communicable diseases are directly attributable to the migrant stream currently pouring into Germany.[7]
Many of the infections mentioned in the RKI report have been rare in Europe for decades.[8] Their re-emergence is a significant threat to the general health and welfare of native Germans and new arrivals alike. Germany has a first class healthcare system that should be able to address a discrete outbreak of a single disease, even a serious one.[9] However, the sheer number of refugees and the diversity of infectious diseases they appear to be spreading has been taxing the German public health infrastructure since the beginning of the refugee crisis.[10]
During the Obama administration, the U.S. experienced a mass migration event similar to the German refugee crisis: the arrival of significant numbers of unaccompanied alien children. Although less numerous than the Middle Eastern, African and South Asian refugees streaming into Germany, the Latin American children who arrived on the U.S. border came from countries with similar public health issues – lack of basic sanitation, limited access to healthcare services and an absence of preventative medicine programs.
Their arrival was accompanied by significant increases in tuberculosis, dengue fever and swine flu infections.[11] Unaccompanied alien children also appear to have been the source of the deadly outbreak of the EV-D68 enterovirus that spread throughout the American West in 2014.[12] While these outbreaks were rapidly brought under control, that seems to have been a function of the relatively small numbers of alien kids. A full-blown refugee crisis of the type affecting Europe might have resulted in the type of across-the-board increase in disease that Germany is presently experiencing.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/societ...ed-immigration-expose-us-public-health-crisis
floridafan
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The debate has been framed weeks ago and you lost. Now if trumps wants to speak let him open the government first.