Pelosi announcement: Its official. Articles of impeachment being drafted.

Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Sort of fitting, given that a sizable section of [Republican, to be precise] voters look at impeachment as a partisan food fight lol.
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I am an Independent. Here's what I see: Republicans think it is partisan. Democrats know it is about the Constitution.

The hearings clearly showed this:

The Democrats talked about the events involved with the Ukraine Scandal. They were focused on learning what happened. They were doing their Constitutional duty because only the House has the power of impeachment. If they didn't exercise the authority vested in them, they would be shirking their Constitutional duty and violating their own oaths of office. And there would be nobody else to do it. The Power of Impeachment Rests Solely with the House. That's why the Democrats were all business, and pretty much ignored the Republicans. It was their JOB.

The Republicans tried to be a complete distraction. First of all, they showed zero interest in getting to the bottom or learning all the facts. In so doing, they were violating their oaths of office. They are supposed to protect and defend this nation from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Well, what does a domestic enemy look like if that person becomes President? Republicans showed absolutely ZERO INTEREST in fulfilling their duty to address this question. INSTEAD, they did everything possible to disrupt the hearings, and they railed on and on about completely unrelated garbage-talking about stuff that has NOTHING TO DO WITH the testimony of the witnesses, or Ukraine. REPUBLICANS tried to make a case that is all about Democrats, painting Democrats as the real wrong-doers.

So we have Democrats looking at the case, getting the facts, trying to learn; and Republicans distracting from the case, doing anything BUT learning (their minds were already made up under threat of being tweet-slapped,) Shirking Their Constitutional Duty, and instead of acting as an oversight of the executive function, became the defense acting as their own witnesses, but not being sworn to tell the truth, instead railing off about OPINION.

The reason Republicans are able to get away with being such a disgrace to our Constitution, and their oaths of office, is because Trump fans lack the basic ability to discern fact from opinion.

If Democrats were simply trying to undo the 2016 election the time to have done that would have been back then right after it happened.

Let me put this into terms you can identify with:

Even Democrats are not so stupid that they would wait until a term is nearly over before they try to negate an election.

It is about the Constitution. Your side is violating it, the rest of us are duly abhorred. Those of us who really know what's going on, that is.

You can fool all the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all the time.

And THIS is one of THOSE times.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



I am an Independent. Here's what I see: Republicans think it is partisan. Democrats know it is about the Constitution.

The hearings clearly showed this:

The Democrats talked about the events involved with the Ukraine Scandal. They were focused on learning what happened. They were doing their Constitutional duty because only the House has the power of impeachment. If they didn't exercise the authority vested in them, they would be shirking their Constitutional duty and violating their own oaths of office. And there would be nobody else to do it. The Power of Impeachment Rests Solely with the House. That's why the Democrats were all business, and pretty much ignored the Republicans. It was their JOB.

The Republicans tried to be a complete distraction. First of all, they showed zero interest in getting to the bottom or learning all the facts. In so doing, they were violating their oaths of office. They are supposed to protect and defend this nation from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Well, what does a domestic enemy look like if that person becomes President? Republicans showed absolutely ZERO INTEREST in fulfilling their duty to address this question. INSTEAD, they did everything possible to disrupt the hearings, and they railed on and on about completely unrelated garbage-talking about stuff that has NOTHING TO DO WITH the testimony of the witnesses, or Ukraine. REPUBLICANS tried to make a case that is all about Democrats, painting Democrats as the real wrong-doers.

So we have Democrats looking at the case, getting the facts, trying to learn; and Republicans distracting from the case, doing anything BUT learning (their minds were already made up under threat of being tweet-slapped,) Shirking Their Constitutional Duty, and instead of acting as an oversight of the executive function, became the defense acting as their own witnesses, but not being sworn to tell the truth, instead railing off about OPINION.

The reason Republicans are able to get away with being such a disgrace to our Constitution, and their oaths of office, is because Trump fans lack the basic ability to discern fact from opinion.

If Democrats were simply trying to undo the 2016 election the time to have done that would have been back then right after it happened.

Let me put this into terms you can identify with:

Even Democrats are not so stupid that they would wait until a term is nearly over before they try to negate an election.

It is about the Constitution. Your side is violating it, the rest of us are duly abhorred. Those of us who really know what's going on, that is.

You can fool all the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all the time.

And THIS is one of THOSE times.
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It wasn’t about the Constitution with Biden snd Son, was it, Snowflake?

It isn’t about the Constitution now. It’s about removing a president, since the day of his presidency, by radical Democrat Socialists who can not accept the fact that they lost in 2016.
 
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Mr. Turley, the only scholar who wasn’t a Trump hater, (a Democrat who did not vote for Trump) says there are no grounds for impeachment and the only obstruction is by the Democrats who are trying to impeach him.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



I am an Independent. Here's what I see: Republicans think it is partisan. Democrats know it is about the Constitution.

The hearings clearly showed this:

The Democrats talked about the events involved with the Ukraine Scandal. They were focused on learning what happened. They were doing their Constitutional duty because only the House has the power of impeachment. If they didn't exercise the authority vested in them, they would be shirking their Constitutional duty and violating their own oaths of office. And there would be nobody else to do it. The Power of Impeachment Rests Solely with the House. That's why the Democrats were all business, and pretty much ignored the Republicans. It was their JOB.

The Republicans tried to be a complete distraction. First of all, they showed zero interest in getting to the bottom or learning all the facts. In so doing, they were violating their oaths of office. They are supposed to protect and defend this nation from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Well, what does a domestic enemy look like if that person becomes President? Republicans showed absolutely ZERO INTEREST in fulfilling their duty to address this question. INSTEAD, they did everything possible to disrupt the hearings, and they railed on and on about completely unrelated garbage-talking about stuff that has NOTHING TO DO WITH the testimony of the witnesses, or Ukraine. REPUBLICANS tried to make a case that is all about Democrats, painting Democrats as the real wrong-doers.

So we have Democrats looking at the case, getting the facts, trying to learn; and Republicans distracting from the case, doing anything BUT learning (their minds were already made up under threat of being tweet-slapped,) Shirking Their Constitutional Duty, and instead of acting as an oversight of the executive function, became the defense acting as their own witnesses, but not being sworn to tell the truth, instead railing off about OPINION.

The reason Republicans are able to get away with being such a disgrace to our Constitution, and their oaths of office, is because Trump fans lack the basic ability to discern fact from opinion.

If Democrats were simply trying to undo the 2016 election the time to have done that would have been back then right after it happened.

Let me put this into terms you can identify with:

Even Democrats are not so stupid that they would wait until a term is nearly over before they try to negate an election.

It is about the Constitution. Your side is violating it, the rest of us are duly abhorred. Those of us who really know what's going on, that is.

You can fool all the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all the time.

And THIS is one of THOSE times.
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There are a segment of Democrats [The Resistance] and various Trump-haters that have been trying to remove this president from the day he took office.

In what gave every appearance of a scheme, Comey leaked in order to get Mullet appointed; and Mullet’s mission was to give Democrats a roadmap to impeachment. Mullet failed in his mission last summer; and before the end of summer Democrats started on Ukraine. I think that’s called not missing a beat lol.

THE ONLY REASON DEMOCRATS HAVEN’T REMOVED TRUMP IS BECAUSE THEY’VE FAILED TO.

In other words, it hasn’t been for a lack of trying. In fact, they absolutely get an A for effort as they are utterly relentless in trying to remove Trump and overturn the election of 2016.
 
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Mass groan application made herewith
 
floridafan said:
Listen you pathetic idiot, if you bothered to read my post, it said that the President directed his staff to ignore subpoenas. That has never happened before.
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it has happened in every presidency since the year 1901.......most recently Obama and Eric Holder.....
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/09/fast-and-furious-documents-holder-1313120
here's a list of other presidents who did the same....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege#Obama_administration
 
Nomad said:
Repubs will protect their own of course.

Hopefully the voters will make them all pay in 2020.
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every single republican will vote against

some democrats will vote against

Voting against impeachment will have bipartisan support. :rofl2:
 
PostmodernProphet said:
it has happened in every presidency since the year 1901.......most recently Obama and Eric Holder.....
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/09/fast-and-furious-documents-holder-1313120
here's a list of other presidents who did the same....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege#Obama_administration
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Neither of your examples deal with a president directing a subordinate not to honor a congressional subpoena. Do you read this stuff before posting?
 
floridafan said:
Neither of your examples deal with a president directing a subordinate not to honor a congressional subpoena. Do you read this stuff before posting?
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are you nuts?.....
On June 20, 2012, President Barack Obama asserted executive privilege in order to withhold certain Department of Justice documents related to the Operation Fast and Furious
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on June 28, 2007, Bush invoked executive privilege in response to congressional subpoenas requesting documents from former presidential counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor,[
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The Clinton administration invoked executive privilege on fourteen occasions.

In 1998, President Bill Clinton became the first president since Nixon to assert executive privilege and lose in court
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Darth Omar said:
There are a segment of Democrats [The Resistance] and various Trump-haters that have been trying to remove this president from the day he took office.

In what gave every appearance of a scheme, Comey leaked in order to get Mullet appointed; and Mullet’s mission was to give Democrats a roadmap to impeachment. Mullet failed in his mission last summer; and before the end of summer Democrats started on Ukraine. I think that’s called not missing a beat lol.

THE ONLY REASON DEMOCRATS HAVEN’T REMOVED TRUMP IS BECAUSE THEY’VE FAILED TO.

In other words, it hasn’t been for a lack of trying. In fact, they absolutely get an A for effort as they are utterly relentless in trying to remove Trump and overturn the election of 2016.
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Stuff your victim card back up your ass where you pulled it out of, Trumptard.
 
Micawber said:
Two weeks and you can hang the albatross around his presidency forever.
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Nothing will change. Trump will not get convicted. Democrats will lose in 2020 and you will still be an uneducated, triggered, unhinged lying leftist lunatic loser on steroids. ;)
 
Cinnabar said:
Pelosi is a better person than most. Many pray the he drops dead before he inflicts more damage. I don't believe that his croaking would fix the root of the problem and all the GOP criminals need to be sent packing.
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Democrat Hypocrisy: The Nancy Pelosi Edition
 
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