It was a typical Washington, DC polititian answer. Palin is great at that game.
Palin Lied!
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It was a typical Washington, DC polititian answer. Palin is great at that game.
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The Almighty
No, she did not lie. You are pretending that Eagle forums dictates the only possible meaning to 'abstinence until marriage'.
LOL
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The only person that is clear to is you SF. But you always were a Palin high heel licker.
right... gotcha... so you are going to interpret the word "yes" to mean what you want it to. But in the longer answer where she clearly spells out what she believes... that is just a "lie" because, well ... you say it is.
consider yourself skewered.
It is pratically the same thing to a teenager. Is anyone, even the abstinance only people, supporting abstinance after marriage?
You mean other than SF's future wife?
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The Almighty
Funny old man... but when I post a direct quote from Palin, somehow you hacks ignore that and pretend that her words are 'not really what she meant'. Try to follow along....
"Palin was asked whether programs that discuss condoms are included in "explicit" programs.
Palin said no and called discussions of condoms "relatively benign."
She added,.....
"I'm pro-contraception and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues.
So I am not anti-contraception.
But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don't have a problem with that. That doesn't scare me, so it's something I would support also.""
I didn't feel anything this time either. I thought you said you were taking those skewer-enhancment pills that you ordered from late night tv? I didn't feel any difference?
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uscitizen
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she also posted contradictory stuff to those statements.
So even to an old fart like me the conclusion is simple.
Paliln Lied!
She answers questions like a typical washington insideeur.
Well, she either lied to the eagle forum, or, and this very possible because I do judge her to be seriously ignorant and dumb - she didn't know what she was being asked.
She did stick by supporting contraceptive education during the election, in contradiction to "the maverick" and "the moderate" John McCain's position. He was much more clear on this - abstinenece only, period.
So, I may have been wrong.
"Leslee Unruh, president of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse and campaign manager of the Vote Yes for Life effort, said children must be given a “clear and concise” message on the benefits of abstinence.
Asked about Palin’s statement, Unruh said, “I don’t think it’s clear. It seems disjointed to me.”
Two days later, Unruh dismissed the comments as “old.”
“I support her in every way,” she said.
Other conservatives who have backed Palin, including James Dobson of Focus on the Family, declined to weigh in.
Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said the governor stands by her 2006 statement, supporting sex education that covers both abstinence and contraception.
McCain’s campaign did not respond to questions about whether Palin’s position is inconsistent with his. But earlier, a campaign spokesperson said McCain believes abstinence is “the only safe and responsible alternative.”
“To do otherwise is to send a mixed signal to children that, on the one hand they should not be sexually active, but on the other, here is the way to go about it,” according to a statement provided by the campaign. “As any parent knows, ambiguity and equivocation leads to problems when it comes to teaching children right from wrong.”
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/06/nation/na-sexed6
She did stick by supporting contraceptive education during the election, in contradiction to "the maverick" and "the moderate" John McCain's position. He was much more clear on this - abstinenece only, period.
So, I may have been wrong.
"Leslee Unruh, president of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse and campaign manager of the Vote Yes for Life effort, said children must be given a “clear and concise” message on the benefits of abstinence.
Asked about Palin’s statement, Unruh said, “I don’t think it’s clear. It seems disjointed to me.”
Two days later, Unruh dismissed the comments as “old.”
“I support her in every way,” she said.
Other conservatives who have backed Palin, including James Dobson of Focus on the Family, declined to weigh in.
Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said the governor stands by her 2006 statement, supporting sex education that covers both abstinence and contraception.
McCain’s campaign did not respond to questions about whether Palin’s position is inconsistent with his. But earlier, a campaign spokesperson said McCain believes abstinence is “the only safe and responsible alternative.”
“To do otherwise is to send a mixed signal to children that, on the one hand they should not be sexually active, but on the other, here is the way to go about it,” according to a statement provided by the campaign. “As any parent knows, ambiguity and equivocation leads to problems when it comes to teaching children right from wrong.”
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/06/nation/na-sexed6
Socrtease
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So she didn't know what Eagle Forum's policy is? She answered the question completely unaware of what THEY meant by 'abstinence until marriage'? Well it is believable she had no clue as to what she was answering. So either she lied, she was purposefully deceptive and did not differentiate her position from theirs to gain their acceptance, or she was just plain ignorant and did not do any prep before the Eagle Forum event. None of those speak highly of her so I'll let you decide which it was.
I think it is far more likely she parsed her words carefully to state exactly what she meant without giving more, like many skilled politicians would do in that place.
Well I have always said she is a classic stupid bimbo, and how that put feminists in an interesting position. Is it sexist to call a bimbo a bimbo?
So this is a tough call. She may have lied, she has a track record of being a liar...but she also has a track record of being a stupid bimbo. So...
Socrtease
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So you agree with my assessment that she was purposefully deceptive and did not differentiate her position from theirs to gain their acceptance. I agree.
Yes. That is what I basically stated. She allowed them to think she agreed with them more than she did. Are you saying that Obama, or Hillary, or even Ronnie Reagan never has done that with any crowd anywhere, or that she specifically should be burned for doing such a thing?