Palin Lied!

Yes. That is what I basically stated. She allowed them to think she agreed with them more than she did. Are you saying that Obama, or Hillary, or even Ronnie Reagan never has done that with any crowd anywhere, or that she specifically should be burned for doing such a thing?

No but she held herself out as someone who did not do such things. "Say it isent so Joe". Remember all her comments about how she does not talk like regular Washington insiders.
 
No but she held herself out as someone who did not do such things. "Say it isent so Joe". Remember all her comments about how she does not talk like regular Washington insiders.
She never said she didn't speak like a politician, only that she doesn't like an insider. It was apparent she wasn't an insider during her interview with Couric.

You are just reaching in any silly direction you feel good about, aren't you? She lost the election, Jarod. You don't have to be afraid of the pretty lady any longer.
 
She never said she didn't speak like a politician, only that she doesn't like an insider. It was apparent she wasn't an insider during her interview with Couric.

You are just reaching in any silly direction you feel good about, aren't you? She lost the election, Jarod. You don't have to be afraid of the pretty lady any longer.

I disagree, I think part of her appeal to many was that they wrongly belived she was a stright talker who did not play the washington insider word games. The truth was however that she PLAYED THEM and did a better job of it than most.
 
I disagree, I think part of her appeal to many was that they wrongly belived she was a stright talker who did not play the washington insider word games. The truth was however that she PLAYED THEM and did a better job of it than most.
So, you think you should still fear the pretty lady. Fair enough.
 
So, you think you should still fear the pretty lady. Fair enough.

That's what this thread comes down to? You are wrong, then wrong again, then wrong many more times, so all you can do is resort to "oh, you're just afraid of the pretty lady?" (the lady who was close to being a heartbeat away from the Presidency, and is still talked about with enthusiasm by the GOP base for 2012)
 
That's what this thread comes down to? You are wrong, then wrong again, then wrong many more times, so all you can do is resort to "oh, you're just afraid of the pretty lady?" (the lady who was close to being a heartbeat away from the Presidency, and is still talked about with enthusiasm by the GOP base for 2012)
Except I haven't been "wrong". You are pulling a Biden and imagining history that doesn't exist.
 
I wish I believed for one moment that the power elite of the Republican party was going to allow her to be the nominee in 2012.

But that's not in the cards.

It'd be great though.
 
I wish I believed for one moment that the power elite of the Republican party was going to allow her to be the nominee in 2012.

But that's not in the cards.

It'd be great though.
I agree, hence my assertion that nobody needs to fear the pretty lady anymore. But heck, Onceler thinks I am wrong.
 
That's what this thread comes down to? You are wrong, then wrong again, then wrong many more times, so all you can do is resort to "oh, you're just afraid of the pretty lady?" (the lady who was close to being a heartbeat away from the Presidency, and is still talked about with enthusiasm by the GOP base for 2012)

LMAO... how many times have YOU been wrong on this thread? You continue to put forth your stupidity. You whine that I did not post a direct quote from Palin. Then when I do post a direct quote, you ignore it and say that the detailed answer she gave is not her real position but that the 'yes' answer is what she 'really' believes.

Just admit you are a hack with PDS.
 
LMAO... how many times have YOU been wrong on this thread? You continue to put forth your stupidity. You whine that I did not post a direct quote from Palin. Then when I do post a direct quote, you ignore it and say that the detailed answer she gave is not her real position but that the 'yes' answer is what she 'really' believes.

Just admit you are a hack with PDS.

He was never wrong on this thread. I posted a Palin quote, which no matter how much you want to twist, was clear. "Yes".

There is no burden on someone to go looking for further quotes to see if a political figure later changed their story. Which, she did do.
 
LMAO... how many times have YOU been wrong on this thread? You continue to put forth your stupidity. You whine that I did not post a direct quote from Palin. Then when I do post a direct quote, you ignore it and say that the detailed answer she gave is not her real position but that the 'yes' answer is what she 'really' believes.

Just admit you are a hack with PDS.

I dunno - maybe it's just me, but when someone responds affirmatively to a direct, clear question, I interpret that as someone responding affirmatively to a direct, clear question.

But sure - we're reading way too much into a "yes." Yes can mean so many different things.
 
He was never wrong on this thread. I posted a Palin quote, which no matter how much you want to twist, was clear. "Yes".

There is no burden on someone to go looking for further quotes to see if a political figure later changed their story. Which, she did do.
So, in reality you were both "right"?

Basically what I found out in this thread, what I learned, is that Palin believes in the "abstinence as the best option" teaching while also teaching of birth control and STD avoidance.

I really didn't know that before, even when I went into sarcastic mode.
 
I dunno - maybe it's just me, but when someone responds affirmatively to a direct, clear question, I interpret that as someone responding affirmatively to a direct, clear question.

But sure - we're reading way too much into a "yes." Yes can mean so many different things.
Yeah, because nobody can ever clarify a point, it is set within stone forever as the only answer they can ever give.

:D <- Again, Disclaimer: This is sarcasm.
 
He was never wrong on this thread. I posted a Palin quote, which no matter how much you want to twist, was clear. "Yes".

There is no burden on someone to go looking for further quotes to see if a political figure later changed their story. Which, she did do.

Wrong again. It was a clear 'Yes'. Just not a clear 'Yes' to what YOU two wanted it to be.

She stated Yes to supporting abstinence until marriage. She did NOT say yes to abstinence only. A point that was further clarified by what I posted and you two PDS afflicted individuals choose to pretend didn't occur.

She did not 'change her position'. That is purely your spin.
 
I dunno - maybe it's just me, but when someone responds affirmatively to a direct, clear question, I interpret that as someone responding affirmatively to a direct, clear question.

But sure - we're reading way too much into a "yes." Yes can mean so many different things.

The answer was clear in that she stated she supported abstinence until marriage and that she opposed the explicit sex education. She did not however address the other points. She did do so a month later in the next article posted. A point you continue to ignore, because you are a hack.

"school-based clinics and distribution of contraceptives in schools." This is the portion she did not address. Yet you pretend she did.
 
I dunno - maybe it's just me, but when someone responds affirmatively to a direct, clear question, I interpret that as someone responding affirmatively to a direct, clear question.

But sure - we're reading way too much into a "yes." Yes can mean so many different things.

Not when I say it Onceler. It would totally mean, yes. Yes. Yes.
 
So, in reality you were both "right"?

Basically what I found out in this thread, what I learned, is that Palin believes in the "abstinence as the best option" teaching while also teaching of birth control and STD avoidance.

I really didn't know that before, even when I went into sarcastic mode.

No. In reality I was right, and SF was almost not wrong.
 
Not when I say it Onceler. It would totally mean, yes. Yes. Yes.

Palin was asked whether programs that discuss condoms are included in "explicit" programs. Palin said no and called discussions of condoms "relatively benign." She added, "I'm pro-contraception and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don't have a problem with that. That doesn't scare me, so it's something I would support also."
 
No. In reality I was right, and SF was almost not wrong.

Palin was asked whether programs that discuss condoms are included in "explicit" programs. Palin said no and called discussions of condoms "relatively benign." She added, "I'm pro-contraception and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don't have a problem with that. That doesn't scare me, so it's something I would support also."
 
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