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NEW YORK – A New York Post cartoon that some have interpreted as comparing President Barack Obama to a violent chimpanzee gunned down by police drew outrage Wednesday from civil rights leaders and elected officials who said it echoed racist stereotypes of blacks as monkeys.

The cartoon in Wednesday's Post by Sean Delonas shows two police officers, one with a smoking gun, standing over the body of a bullet-riddled chimp. The caption reads: "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

The cartoon refers to a chimpanzee named Travis who was killed Monday by police in Stamford, Conn., after it mauled a friend of its owner.

Some critics called the cartoon racist and said it trivialized a tragedy in which a woman was disfigured and a chimpanzee killed. Others said the cartoon suggests that Obama should be assassinated. Many urged a boycott of the Post and the companies that advertise in it.


LOL

Nothing like a cartoon to get the libtards in an uproar.
 
webbway said:
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NEW YORK – A New York Post cartoon that some have interpreted as comparing President Barack Obama to a violent chimpanzee gunned down by police drew outrage Wednesday from civil rights leaders and elected officials who said it echoed racist stereotypes of blacks as monkeys.

The cartoon in Wednesday's Post by Sean Delonas shows two police officers, one with a smoking gun, standing over the body of a bullet-riddled chimp. The caption reads: "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

The cartoon refers to a chimpanzee named Travis who was killed Monday by police in Stamford, Conn., after it mauled a friend of its owner.

Some critics called the cartoon racist and said it trivialized a tragedy in which a woman was disfigured and a chimpanzee killed. Others said the cartoon suggests that Obama should be assassinated. Many urged a boycott of the Post and the companies that advertise in it.


LOL

Nothing like a cartoon to get the libtards in an uproar.
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Much ado about nothing.

The Post supported Obama.

George Bush was called the Smirking Chimp.
 
blackascoal said:
Much ado about nothing.

The Post supported Obama.

George Bush was called the Smirking Chimp.
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I'm glad you answered BAC because I was curious about you thoughts on this. There are many websites dedicated to Bush = Chimp etc. so it was a familiar refrain throughout his Presidency. However calling Bush a chimp doesn't carry the same racial stigma/history that it would referring to Obama in the same way.

Al Sharpton was on Olbermann last night and they discussed this for awhile and if they are both accurte many many people were offended by the racial overtones of the cartoon.
 
cawacko said:
I'm glad you answered BAC because I was curious about you thoughts on this. There are many websites dedicated to Bush = Chimp etc. so it was a familiar refrain throughout his Presidency. However calling Bush a chimp doesn't carry the same racial stigma/history that it would referring to Obama in the same way.

Al Sharpton was on Olbermann last night and they discussed this for awhile and if they are both accurte many many people were offended by the racial overtones of the cartoon.
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I was forced to do an hour on this issue on the radio early this morning although I would have rather talked about something else.

I recognize many people are upset about it, and I know the image of a chimp/monkey carries a different conotation when it concerns black people, but if we're going to jump at everything that looks like a slight, we'd be jumping ourselves silly. Besides, the Post supported Obama over one of their own, Hillary Clinton.

From my perspective, the fight that took place at a state basketball game deserves much more attention, and it's something that only African-Americans can solve.

Additionally, the epidemic of police shootings of unarmed black men and the injustice of the injustice system deserve far more attention.

What I've found interesting is Eric Holder's comment yesterday where he said Americans are cowards on the issue of race. Let's see how brave he's going to be and step up to address the spate of police shootings.
 
I think Eric Holder's comments were taken somewhat out of context when he said we were cowards on racial issues. He meant that we were cowards at home. That we were ok with racial equality at work and in public but did not walk the talk at home. Being in a interacial marriage myself I have to admit there is some truth to that. It does take a certain amount of courage and personal character to accept that in your personnel home life. It's a significant learning curve sharing your life and love with someone of another race and culture that does require a certain amount of courage.
 
Mottleydude said:
I think Eric Holder's comments were taken somewhat out of context when he said we were cowards on racial issues. He meant that we were cowards at home. That we were ok with racial equality at work and in public but did not walk the talk at home. Being in a interacial marriage myself I have to admit there is some truth to that. It does take a certain amount of courage and personal character to accept that in your personnel home life. It's a significant learning curve sharing your life and love with someone of another race and culture that does require a certain amount of courage.
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I knew I liked you.

You're right, being in a relationship with someone of another race does take courage, and I applaud yours my brother.

Regardless of what Holder meant, I'm waiting to see a bit of courage coming from him and his leader.
 
blackascoal said:
I knew I liked you.

You're right, being in a relationship with someone of another race does take courage, and I applaud yours my brother.

Regardless of what Holder meant, I'm waiting to see a bit of courage coming from him and his leader.
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You're apprapos is appreciated but it's very easy to be open minded and find courage when your wife is as pretty and sweet and smart as mine is. I'm one hell of a lucky man to have found her and earned her love.
 
Mottleydude said:
I think Eric Holder's comments were taken somewhat out of context when he said we were cowards on racial issues. He meant that we were cowards at home. That we were ok with racial equality at work and in public but did not walk the talk at home. Being in a interacial marriage myself I have to admit there is some truth to that. It does take a certain amount of courage and personal character to accept that in your personnel home life. It's a significant learning curve sharing your life and love with someone of another race and culture that does require a certain amount of courage.
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I think he was right on more than just at home. People in the US are so afraid of being called something that they are afraid to even ask questions. We are so uncomfortable it borders on wimptastically and catastrophically cowardly. Nobody is brave enough to get past those who may be offended to just step up and ask.
 
Damocles said:
I think he was right on more than just at home. People in the US are so afraid of being called something that they are afraid to even ask questions. We are so uncomfortable it borders on wimptastically and catastrophically cowardly. Nobody is brave enough to get past those who may be offended to just step up and ask.
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Maybe this is just a political partisan thing but I think there is a legit fear of being labeled the "r" word for asking real questions and that can limit much needed racial discussions.
 
cawacko said:
Maybe this is just a political partisan thing but I think there is a legit fear of being labeled the "r" word for asking real questions and that can limit much needed racial discussions.
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Yup. And because of this we become the nation that ignores the Donkey standing in the living room.
 
Damocles said:
I think he was right on more than just at home. People in the US are so afraid of being called something that they are afraid to even ask questions. We are so uncomfortable it borders on wimptastically and catastrophically cowardly. Nobody is brave enough to get past those who may be offended to just step up and ask.
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Yea....it's like you're not allowed to have a sense of humor anymore cause if you tell a joke your sure to offend someone.

Well I say fuck em if they can't take a joke! :clink:
 
cawacko said:
Maybe this is just a political partisan thing but I think there is a legit fear of being labeled the "r" word for asking real questions and that can limit much needed racial discussions.
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I hear what your saying and there is some truth to that but R's have used a racial strategy, particularly in the south, for a long time now. Their reputation is earned.
 
Mottleydude said:
I hear what your saying and there is some truth to that but R's have used a racial strategy, particularly in the south, for a long time now. Their reputation is earned.
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Exactly my point, partisan political racial stuff being thrown out already. How do you encourage discussion doing what you just did? There are racist Democrats too. Republicans don't have a monopoly. But what does getting into a pissing contest over who has more racists do to futher discussion?
 
cawacko said:
Exactly my point, partisan political racial stuff being thrown out already. How do you encourage discussion doing what you just did? There are racist Democrats too. Republicans don't have a monopoly. But what does getting into a pissing contest over who has more racists do to futher discussion?
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You're point is well taken but my point is that it is a credibility issue. It's the credibility issue and Republicans have less credibility on the issue of race. That doesn't preclude Democrats or make them innocent of racism or race baiting but they do have more credibility as a bit tent political party where racial issues are concered then Republicans have.
 
Mottleydude said:
You're point is well taken but my point is that it is a credibility issue. It's the credibility issue and Republicans have less credibility on the issue of race. That doesn't preclude Democrats or make them innocent of racism or race baiting but they do have more credibility as a bit tent political party where racial issues are concered then Republicans have.
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Alright but if Holder is claiming black and white Americans don't interact on the weekends and outside of work what does that have to do with political parties? If I as a white person am hanging out with a black person on a Saturday for fun and we decide to have a discussion on race I'm not coming at him as a "Republican" I'm talking to him from my personal perspective. He/She and I can discuss racial issues such as AA or other more 'controversial' racial topics but does it have to be from a political party perspective? Just my opinion but the minute political parties gets brought up it turns into a partisan argument like most threads on this board. I assume that's not what Holder was aiming for with his comments.
 
Mottleydude said:
You're apprapos is appreciated but it's very easy to be open minded and find courage when your wife is as pretty and sweet and smart as mine is. I'm one hell of a lucky man to have found her and earned her love.
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:hand:

Good for you my friend.

Your humility is appreciated .. although I know it still takes courage to take that step.
 
cawacko said:
Exactly my point, partisan political racial stuff being thrown out already. How do you encourage discussion doing what you just did? There are racist Democrats too. Republicans don't have a monopoly. But what does getting into a pissing contest over who has more racists do to futher discussion?
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He has a legitimate point .. and so do you.

There are indeed racist democrats, but they do not dominare the Democratic Party as they dominate the Republican Party. In fact, the racist wing of the Democratic Party, the dixiecrats, vote republican in national elections and strictly racist in local elections.

Republican "southern strategy" is fueled and perpetuated by racism.

Additionally, many policies put forth by republicans tens to have that distinct smell of racism .. anti-affirmative action, anti-minimum wage, states rights, Voter-ID, suppression of the black vote, etc.

Frankly there is no denying that republicans have been the party of racists since Nixon embarked on his southern strategy .. although I do not believe that Nixon himself was racist.

There is no question the Republican Party remains the party of white men.

There are valid reasons why republicans get 8% of the black vote.

Part of the conversation that must be had is a recogniton of the obvious. Disingenuous conversation gets us nowhere.
 
blackascoal said:
He has a legitimate point .. and so do you.

Republican "southern strategy" is fueled and perpetuated by racism.
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I would say that your statement is partly right but not mostly right. The "southern strategy" is geared more at religious-ism than racism, IMO. Run a Michael Steele, J.C. Watts, etc. as a candidate in a national election and see how much support they get from the white folks in the South against almost any democratic candidate.

That being said, I think a lot of religious folks, myself included, are seeing through this "strategy" and seeing a lot of republican political figures for what they are......hypocrites. Thus their waning support throughout the south and midwest. Though they are still winning in the South and midwest the margin of victory is getting narrower and narrower......and I think the trend will continue.
 
I'm glad they aplogized, I cant help but think that any person in this country today could draw that cartoon or print that cartoon and not realise it could be taken as a racial insult.

Just because some are not offended by it does not mean others would not be offended.

Its time people stop gettting all pissed off when someone says "hey that offends me".

Try, just try not having some asshole scream "race card" every time this issue arrises and someone publically says they were offended.
 
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