Outrage as Russian overnight attacks on Ukraine cities kill at least nine civilians

[moon]

Yep. As Jeffrey Sachs told European Parliament not too long ago:
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I begged the Ukrainians: stay neutral. Don’t listen to the Americans. I repeated to them the famous adage of Henry Kissinger, that to be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. Let me repeat that for Europe: To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
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Source:

Jeffrey Sachs: The Geopolitics of Peace

The author explains manipulative U.S. post-war foreign policy to European MPs, explodes myths about Ukraine and urges an independent European foreign policy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcMoDFU1xg&ab_channel=MichaelvonderSchulenburg This is an edited transcript of Professor Jeffrey Sachs’

consortiumnews.com

As you know, the majority of Ukrainians voted to remain with Russia and opposed joining with the U and NATO. This majority was illegally overturned by the US-led coup of 2014. The Russians have been maligned all along.

 

[moon]

To be fair, it was the USSR that transferred Crimean from the Russian SSR to the Ukrainian one, but yes, I know that Russia is now saying that it was done illegally. It certainly wasn't done with the consent of the Crimean people.

No, it wasn't, you're right. The transfer was made by a drunken Nikita Kruschev- himself a Ukrainian- during a meeting of the Grand Presidium which had no legitimising quorum.

 

[Jarod]

'Oh, Vladdie, stop, please stop."

Trump exclaims as he climaxes.

 

[moon]

Who would have ever thought that lobbying for Putin’s interests would be the full time job of a United States president?

Suppose that Russia's interests are legal and just ?
Bear in mind, pro-Russian Ukrainians won the elections. US-backed Ukrainian neo-Nazis attacked them.

 

[dancindave]

Only as long as it is supported by US Evangelists- and that won't be for much longer. There is a Latino majority coming to the USA,.

So that not so master race not so master plan of “serve the Pope or die” Catholic Church assassination of JFK to flood the USA with South America drugs to make room for the South America illegal alien invasion in that WW II Mengele “Angel of Death” baptize thine eyes by urinations tradition of Christian Nation SCOTUS Bicentennial Fourth Reich July with their more perfect union to Islamidiotocracy Valhalla……..

 

[Nordberg]

As you know, the majority of Ukrainians voted to remain with Russia and opposed joining with the U and NATO. This majority was illegally overturned by the US-led coup of 2014. The Russians have been maligned all along.

Yeah, you can trust the Russian election system. That is why Putin wins fair election after fair election.

 

[moon]

'
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The US and the EU led a coup in Ukraine – they have been fighting ever since.


The US and Europe led a coup in Ukraine – they have been fighting ever since. The CIA and, likely, MI6, led a coup in Ukraine. They called it the "Maidan" revolution. They have been at war ever since.
It was then that all the REAL problems in Ukraine began. The US funded protests in Ukraine with nearly a million dollars a day in cash, coming from the US Embassy in Kyiv.
In the following weeks, the protests would become so violent that CIA-backed protesters burned members of the Ukrainian government alive in cities like Odessa and Mariupol.
Within a few months, the democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, was overthrown, and a puppet government was installed by the US and the EU in Kyiv.
This led the people of Crimea to vote in a public referendum to secede and return home to Russia. Crimea had only been part of Ukraine for about 55 years, after Nikita Khrushchev (a Ukrainian), General Secretary of the Soviet Union, GAVE Crimea to Ukraine.
Crimea voted overwhelmingly to return to Russia.
The collective West recoiled in horror and refused to recognize the vote, even though it was closely monitored by United Nations election observers.
To this day, the West denies reality and refers to Crimea as "occupied."
After Crimea left Ukraine, Luhansk and Donetsk wanted to leave as well. Ukraine, at the request of the EU and the US, concentrated troops on the borders of these two oblasts (states) and began firing artillery and mortars at civilian populations. They wanted to ethnically cleanse the Russian-speaking population!
The state militias of Luhansk and Donetsk fought Ukraine to a standstill, but at a terrible cost: 13,000 civilians were killed by Ukrainian shelling and mortars.
Hoping to stop the bloodshed, a meeting was organized in Minsk, Belarus, for a peace conference. Present were the Kyiv government, represented by President Poroshenko, representatives from Luhansk and Donetsk, the President of France, Francois Hollande, the Chancellor of Germany, Angela Merkel, and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
After nearly 19 hours of negotiations, all parties signed the "Minsk Agreement" to restore peace.
Ukraine did not honor a SINGLE item of that agreement. '

 

[moon]

Yeah, you can trust the Russian election system. That is why Putin wins fair election after fair election.

It's a fact that the US elections are purchased. Corruption takes many forms.

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[ZenMode]

Suppose that Russia's interests are legal and just ?
Bear in mind, pro-Russian Ukrainians won the elections. US-backed Ukrainian neo-Nazis attacked them.

Why would I suppose that Russia's actions are legal and just?

 

[ZenMode]

As you know, the majority of Ukrainians voted to remain with Russia and opposed joining with the U and NATO. This majority was illegally overturned by the US-led coup of 2014. The Russians have been maligned all along.

With a straight face you say this nonsense...

 

[moon]

Why would I suppose that Russia's actions are legal and just?

Because you'll see the opposite viewpoint to the one you've been brainwashed with.

 

[moon]

With a straight face you say this nonsense...

As a dumbass, you should be certified.
Here's a second chance for you to absorb some truth;

As you know, the majority of Ukrainians voted to remain with Russia and opposed joining with the EU and NATO. This majority was illegally overturned by the US-led coup of 2014. The Russians have been maligned all along.

 

[ZenMode]

Because you'll see the opposite viewpoint to the one you've been brainwashed with.

That's not an answer. Why do you think Russia invading a sovereign country is legal and just.

 

[moon]

That's not an answer. Why do you think Russia invading a sovereign country is legal and just.

I'll answer- but then you'll have to think for yourself.

Crimea was always Russian. It was illegally transferred to Ukraine in 1951.
The Russian-speaking people of the Donbass were attacked by pro-Western Ukrainian neo-Nazis for eight years. They declared their independence , which Russia recognized- and requested Russian assistance.
That's legal and just in the eyes of Russians, Crimeans and half of Ukrainians.

 

[ZenMode]

I'll answer- but then you'll have to think for yourself.

Crimea was always Russian. It was illegally transferred to Ukraine in 1951.
The Russian-speaking people of the Donbass were attacked by pro-Western Ukrainian neo-Nazis for eight years. They declared their independence , which Russia recognized- and requested Russian assistance.
That's legal and just in the eyes of Russians, Crimeans and half of Ukrainians.

Again.... so, you believe that it's ok for Russia to invade a sovereign country today because they believed they have a right to Crimea? Do you also believe Russia only has interest in Crimea or does your delusion have limits?

 

[moon]

Again.... so, you believe that it's ok for Russia to invade a sovereign country today because they believed they have a right to Crimea? Do you also believe Russia only has interest in Crimea or does your delusion have limits?

No, Russia wants to defend itself from US idiots like you.

 

[ZenMode]

No, Russia wants to defend itself from US idiots like you.

Really? And how is invading Ukrain protecting Russia from the US?

 

[moon]

Really? And how is invading Ukrain protecting Russia from the US?

Go away- and take your ignorance with you.

 

[Scott]

Really? And how is invading Ukrain protecting Russia from the US?

In the same way as getting Russia to remove its nukes from Cuba. From what I've read, the final straw was when Ukraine renewed its assault on the Donbass region of Ukraine. Former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud summed things up pretty well on that count:
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In fact, as early as February 16 [2022], Joe Biden knows that the Ukrainians began to shell the civilian populations of Donbass, putting Vladimir Putin in front of a difficult choice: to help Donbass militarily and create an international problem or to sit idle and watch Russian speakers from the Donbass being run over.

If he decides to intervene, Vladimir Putin can invoke the international obligation of “ Responsibility To Protect ” (R2P). But he knows that whatever its nature or scale, the intervention will trigger a shower of sanctions. Therefore, whether its intervention is limited to the Donbass or whether it goes further to put pressure on the West for the status of Ukraine, the price to be paid will be the same. This is what he explains in his speech on February 21.

That day, he acceded to the request of the Duma and recognized the independence of the two Republics of Donbass and, in the process, he signed treaties of friendship and assistance with them.

The Ukrainian artillery bombardments on the populations of Donbass continued and, on February 23, the two Republics requested military aid from Russia. On the 24th, Vladimir Putin invokes Article 51 of the United Nations Charter which provides for mutual military assistance within the framework of a defensive alliance.

In order to make the Russian intervention totally illegal in the eyes of the public we deliberately obscure the fact that the war actually started on February 16th. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as certain Russian and European intelligence services were well aware… The lawyers will judge.
**
Full article:

Former NATO Military Analyst Blows the Whistle on West’s Ukraine Invasion Narrative

Jacques Baud, a NATO expert, denounces western coverage of the Ukraine invasion.

scheerpost.com

 

[Scott]

Yep. As Jeffrey Sachs told European Parliament not too long ago:
**
I begged the Ukrainians: stay neutral. Don’t listen to the Americans. I repeated to them the famous adage of Henry Kissinger, that to be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. Let me repeat that for Europe: To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
**
Source:

Jeffrey Sachs: The Geopolitics of Peace

The author explains manipulative U.S. post-war foreign policy to European MPs, explodes myths about Ukraine and urges an independent European foreign policy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcMoDFU1xg&ab_channel=MichaelvonderSchulenburg This is an edited transcript of Professor Jeffrey Sachs’

consortiumnews.com

As you know, the majority of Ukrainians voted to remain with Russia and opposed joining with the U and NATO. This majority was illegally overturned by the US-led coup of 2014. The Russians have been maligned all along.

Are you referring to the following?:
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NOVEMBER
The Ukrainian government issues a decree suspending preparations for the association agreement (AA). Deputy Prime Minister Yuriy Boyko warns the current terms of the agreement would “seriously damage the economy”.

“Pro European” demonstrations begin in Maidan square within days of the decree being issued. A poll run by the Kyiv Post finds an even split on joining the EU vs the Eurasian customs union: 39% for, 37% against.
**

Full article:

Timeline: Euromaidan, the original “Ukraine Crisis”

As Russia actually do launch an invasion or “special operation” in Ukraine, we thought now was a good time to recap on how we got here. The historical, political and ethnic divisions in…

off-guardian.org

I agree on the maligning of Russians by the western mainstream media.