Our Military...

You make such generalizations for argument...while we may have accepted youth in our military that would otherwise go to jail, anyone showing any of the obvious signs of these types of hateful beliefs would be deemed unfit for service and anyone in command that put up with it or encouraged it would be found unfit for service. Your argument does not hold water.

That they have been convicted of a crime shows them to be unfit. And if a soldier believes that his race is superior, they should be mustered out? What is they just dislike another race? What if they have had bad experiences with another race and hold it against them?

I bring that up because many blacks hold a grudge against whites for the injustices of the past. That could get many blacks kicked out of the service as well, whether they were good soldiers or not. That is one of the reasons I asked about how we police people for what they believe rather than what they do.
 
Then perhaps the war hawks ought to evolve? Maybe war isn't the answer, especially if we don't have enough 'bodies' to fight it? In the meantime, the answer isn't to allow for scumbags to fight in my name, and then expect me to support them, figuratively or otherwise.

I like the way that you are so fussy about who dies in your name, perhaps you should send the troops in Afghanistan some Marilyn French novels and the collected works of Andrea Dworkin to while away the hours?
 
That they have been convicted of a crime shows them to be unfit. And if a soldier believes that his race is superior, they should be mustered out? What is they just dislike another race? What if they have had bad experiences with another race and hold it against them?

I bring that up because many blacks hold a grudge against whites for the injustices of the past. That could get many blacks kicked out of the service as well, whether they were good soldiers or not. That is one of the reasons I asked about how we police people for what they believe rather than what they do.
Our military is made up of a cross section of our populace...we are a multi cultural society and if you can't abide another race you have no business representing our country.
 
Then perhaps the war hawks ought to evolve? Maybe war isn't the answer, especially if we don't have enough 'bodies' to fight it? In the meantime, the answer isn't to allow for scumbags to fight in my name, and then expect me to support them, figuratively or otherwise.

I would love to see any administration avoid wars. Let me know when that happens, because so far it has been both sides of the political spectrum.
 
Debate? What Haiku is doing is debate. What you are doing is simply petty childishness.

Sez you. You've tried and failed to dumb down the discussion and diminish the point because your view of racism and hate is that it's 'politically incorrect'. That attitude is the cornerstone of the problem. That's why your "contribution" to this discussion is being eviscerated. You're not trying to 'debate' anything. You're just being an asshole because you're defensive about your own despicable standards.
 
Sez you. You've tried and failed to dumb down the discussion and diminish the point because your view of racism and hate is that it's 'politically incorrect'. That attitude is the cornerstone of the problem. That's why your "contribution" to this discussion is being eviscerated. You're not trying to 'debate' anything. You're just being an asshole because you're defensive about your own despicable standards.
Politically incorrect inferring that it's simply a liberal sensibility and not worth a real Americans concern or effort to correct.
 
Our military is made up of a cross section of our populace...we are a multi cultural society and if you can't abide another race you have no business representing our country.

That sounds great, and I would love to see it be like that.

But the fact that racism thrives in the same socio-economic strata that the military gets most of its recruits from means it isn't happening anytime soon.

Plus, few will say out loud that they are racist. Most will keep quiet about it. Those with swastika tatts are the tiny minority of the racists in the military. Which is why I have asked the questions I have asked.
 
Politically incorrect inferring that it's simply a liberal sensibility and not worth a real Americans concern or effort to correct.

Once it's revealed that racism and hate are 'political' in someone's view, I'm done trying to reason with that person.
 
That sounds great, and I would love to see it be like that.

But the fact that racism thrives in the same socio-economic strata that the military gets most of its recruits from means it isn't happening anytime soon.

Plus, few will say out loud that they are racist. Most will keep quiet about it. Those with swastika tatts are the tiny minority of the racists in the military. Which is why I have asked the questions I have asked.

And you were ANSWERED. A more thorough background check is in order.
 
Sez you. You've tried and failed to dumb down the discussion and diminish the point because your view of racism and hate is that it's 'politically incorrect'. That attitude is the cornerstone of the problem. That's why your "contribution" to this discussion is being eviscerated. You're not trying to 'debate' anything. You're just being an asshole because you're defensive about your own despicable standards.

My own despicable standards? What standards might those be? Is it my standard that solutions be workable? Please elaborate on what "despicable standards" you are talking about.

Calling it PC is not making it about politics.
 
I would love to see any administration avoid wars. Let me know when that happens, because so far it has been both sides of the political spectrum.

You are wasting your time man, they are just not listening to anything you say. Remember the Taliban have standards too, they don't want to shot by racists without liberal art degrees.
 
My own despicable standards? What standards might those be? Is it my standard that solutions be workable? Please elaborate on what "despicable standards" you are talking about.

Calling it PC is not making it about politics.

Calling it PC is minimizing the realty of what it is, and its effects. Wake up.
 
And you were ANSWERED. A more thorough background check is in order.

A more thorough background check?? If they have committed no crime, then all that is left is to have military personnel contact family, friends, teachers, ect and ask about them. Unless these recruits were some sort of radical racists, making demonstrations and the like, the more thorough background checks will not show anything more. Exactly who is it that you think will tell the military that the kid is a racist?
 
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