Osama Bin Laden DEAD!

Onceler said:
We have every right to pursue the man who perpetrated the biggest attack on U.S. soil in decades.
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Don't run away pinhead, please explain how the ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS in this case, but not when we were interrogating the terrorists who divulged the information as to OBL's whereabouts? This should be interesting...

Waterboarding: The ends doesn't justify the means!
Assassination: The ends DOES justify the means!
 
Dixie said:
Well, it can either be the enhanced interrogation techniques we know were used, or it was the ice cream and cookies... one of the two.... no other explanation exists. I believe it was the enhanced interrogation, you believe it was ice cream and cookies. We'll leave it at that.
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Poor, desperate Dixie.

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration “enhanced interrogation techniques” – which many consider to be torture – led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Milita...rding-didn-t-yield-tips-that-led-to-bin-Laden

But Dixie knows better. It's just that he can't seem to prove it.
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Dixie said:
Don't run away pinhead, please explain how the ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS in this case, but not when we were interrogating the terrorists who divulged the information as to OBL's whereabouts? This should be interesting...

Waterboarding: The ends doesn't justify the means!
Assassination: The ends DOES justify the means!
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Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive – and privately wonder whether concerns about the political “headaches” involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.




The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention operations at Guantánamo.


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Milita...rding-didn-t-yield-tips-that-led-to-bin-Laden

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Yes pinhead, the administration is in full spin mode now, doing their best to dispel any notion that the enhanced interrogation methods they vehemently railed against for the past decade, had anything at all to do with leading us to OBL.

As I said before, you can believe whatever the fuck you want to believe, I know what I believe, and I bet I know what the vast majority of THINKING Americans believe. This bullshit you are floating, is only appealing to the far-left liberal base, who needs some excuse to justify their wrongness all these years. Everyone else KNOWS what happened, and how we obtained the vital information which led to killing OBL. To them, you just look like a bunch of silly idiots. I can live with that, I say, let it ride!
 
What dishonest Dixie posted:

Originally Posted by ¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿ [redacted personal insults]

Got any evidence that without torture "we" (including yourself?) wouldn't have killed OBL?

Post it."



What I actually posted:

¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810351 said:
They work. If you can trust what the victims tell you, and if you don't have a problem with torture.

Have you got any evidence that waterboarding nailed OBL?

If so, post it.
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What "redacted personal insults"? Pathetic.
 
Dixie said:
Yes pinhead, the administration is in full spin mode now, doing their best to dispel any notion that the enhanced interrogation methods they vehemently railed against for the past decade, had anything at all to do with leading us to OBL.

As I said before, you can believe whatever the fuck you want to believe, I know what I believe, and I bet I know what the vast majority of THINKING Americans believe. This bullshit you are floating, is only appealing to the far-left liberal base, who needs some excuse to justify their wrongness all these years. Everyone else KNOWS what happened, and how we obtained the vital information which led to killing OBL. To them, you just look like a bunch of silly idiots. I can live with that, I say, let it ride!
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So former military interrogators are "the administration"?

You're a little short on proof, Dix.

Read this, and tell us how you see the invisible hand of Obama...

"...interrogators assert that Mr. Mohammed and others “did not divulge the nom de guerre of a courier during torture, but rather several months later, when they were questioned by interrogators who did not use abusive techniques.”​

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Milita...n-t-yield-tips-that-led-to-bin-Laden/(page)/2
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810548 said:
What dishonest Dixie posted:

Originally Posted by ¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿ [redacted personal insults]

Got any evidence that without torture "we" (including yourself?) wouldn't have killed OBL?

Post it."



What I actually posted:




What "redacted personal insults"? Pathetic.
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I guess you just can't satisfy your need to tell lies, can you?
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;810517 said:
You ever gonna get that 'Stang off the trailer? Does it need a motor, or something?
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It hasn't been on the trailer since I drove it off a month ago, and I've driven it every day since then.
 
Damn Yankee said:
It hasn't been on the trailer since I drove it off a month ago, and I've driven it every day since then.
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Is your camera broken, or is the 'Stang on it's way back to the finance company in that shot?
 
Dixie said:
Don't run away pinhead, please explain how the ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS in this case, but not when we were interrogating the terrorists who divulged the information as to OBL's whereabouts? This should be interesting...

Waterboarding: The ends doesn't justify the means!
Assassination: The ends DOES justify the means!
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You're pretty delusional to try to compare the 2. Typical Dixieland, though - you know you don't have a moral leg to stand on w/ this one.

We hunted down & killed the man behind 9/11. But we don't torture as a nation.

It's really that simple. I'd love to say "nice try," but it's not really even close...
 
Onceler said:
You're pretty delusional to try to compare the 2. Typical Dixieland, though - you know you don't have a moral leg to stand on w/ this one.

We hunted down & killed the man behind 9/11. But we don't torture as a nation.

It's really that simple. I'd love to say "nice try," but it's not really even close...
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Interrogators, including Herrington, emphasize that they do not question the decisions of the Navy SEAL team operators to kill bin Laden. “It’s a hair-trigger moment. You can’t second guess that,” he says.​




Recent statements from Obama administration officials, however, indicate that bin Laden was unarmed. “Lurking in the background is that if [special operators] were told to go in and kill this guy – and they clearly understood the marching orders – he could have wrapped himself in an American flag and had a white flag in both hands” and still been killed, Herrington says. “Have we come to the point where it is simply seen as too much trouble to capture? [That it’s] better to kill and avoid the theatrics that have accompanied the trials of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and others?” he wonders.​




“I don’t think that the people crafting the rules of engagement for this operation would direct the killing of any individual affirmatively manifesting a bona fide intent to surrender,” says Charles Dunlap, former Deputy Judge Advocate General of the Air Force. “In bin Laden’s case, I am not aware of anything that suggests he had, let alone exhibited, any intent to surrender, so the assumption that he was hostile was justified, in my opinion.”​




Killing bin Laden is widely considered legal, given the rules of war – drone strikes in the ungoverned tribal areas of Pakistan routinely kill insurgents sleeping in their beds, for example.​




“What I want to know is,” asks Herrington, “was it wise?​



 
Yeah - it's actually pretty bogus for Dixie to accuse the SEALS of doing something illegal or immoral. I wonder why he hates the military so much?
 
Onceler said:
Yeah - it's actually pretty bogus for Dixie to accuse the SEALS of doing something illegal or immoral. I wonder why he hates the military so much?
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I think he's desperate to assign the credit for OBL's killing to Bush, that's all.
 
Ice Dancer said:
You are a total intellectually dishonest asshole...truly.
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Please. Intellectual dishonesty is trying to create equivalency between the killing of OBL & torturing suspects during interrogation.

Seriously; it's pathetic, and desperate. And extremely transparent.
 
Onceler said:
Please. Intellectual dishonesty is trying to create equivalency between the killing of OBL & torturing suspects during interrogation.

Seriously; it's pathetic, and desperate. And extremely transparent.
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No, it is a person who thinks going into a country to kill a terrorist by putting a bullet in his face is OK, but pouring water on ones face to save lives and catch other terrorist's is not OK. You are an intellectually dishonest asshole.
 
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