Oklahoma teacher protest

evince said:
http://www.businessinsider.com/cost-of-living-families-major-us-cities-2015-8


dudes the reality is not what you claim





It will only cost you about $49,114 a year to raise a family in Morristown, Tennessee, but if you move to Washington, DC, that expense more that doubles, to $106,493.
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That's according to the Economic Policy Institute's 2015 Family Budget Calculator, which measures the annual cost of necessities for a family to live a secure yet modest lifestyle by estimating the costs of housing, food, child care, transportation, healthcare, other necessities, and taxes.
(Read the EPI's full methodology for the budget calculator here.)
The EPI gathered data in 618 metro areas throughout the US for several different family types. Here, we've highlighted the cost of living for a four-person family (two adults, two children) in 20 major US cities.
If you're looking to start a family in an urban area, consider the annual and monthly cost of necessities, and remember, these numbers do not include savings or discretionary spending:
 
cawacko said:
There are 3.6 million teachers/educators in the U.S. what private firm that you believe pays high salaries to first year workers hire anywhere near the number of teachers that get hired annually? And what corporation is broken up into thousands of areas across the country the determine pay on an individual level as cities do?
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Again a non-sequitur. States like MA with high median incomes for Educators don't seem to have a problem finding and retaining top talent for their public schools. Same here in Ohio in communities like mine where we pay well above the median.

Maybe we should talk about where money is really wasted in public education like lack of over sight in spending by local school boards. Bloated and unchecked bureaucracy, inconsistent contracting processes, toothless internal auditing systems, inefficient, obsolete and often excessive operations costs, excessive numbers of administrators with excessive pay at the cost of classroom instruction, high administrative and operations spending as a percentage of total spending, poor budgeting and board governance.

Now teachers salaries and benefits are the largest single cost but instructional services are what schools are there to perform and those instructional costs (mostly teachers salaries and benefits) are often negatively impacted by the issues I just described. Maybe it's these issues that need to be scrutinized and not greedy teachers unions.
 
evince said:
in most places that money means you would NEVER own a home or buy a NEW car.
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I might agree completely with that statement if you replaced “most” with “a lot of”. But either way, your point is that $40,000 is not much money to live on. Similar to when Miracle Max said Wesley was “mostly dead” I “mostly agree.” That would depend if one was single or married...do they have kids? It’s tough and though I am on one side of the issue being a teacher, I can see the other folks’ perspective as well.
 
evince said:
That's according to the Economic Policy Institute's 2015 Family Budget Calculator, which measures the annual cost of necessities for a family to live a secure yet modest lifestyle by estimating the costs of housing, food, child care, transportation, healthcare, other necessities, and taxes.
(Read the EPI's full methodology for the budget calculator here.)
The EPI gathered data in 618 metro areas throughout the US for several different family types. Here, we've highlighted the cost of living for a four-person family (two adults, two children) in 20 major US cities.
If you're looking to start a family in an urban area, consider the annual and monthly cost of necessities, and remember, these numbers do not include savings or discretionary spending:
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These days two incomes are required by most families.
 
Having an unimpoverished life means being able to AFFORD having kids

if you dont make enough money to consider being able to have a child that is impoverished
 
Rune said:
Honestly with just 8 years experience and only working 180 days a year instead of 250 in addition to a pretty lightweight masters 40K seems fair.
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It is a low cost-of-living area so it's not too bad overall. But if she lived in Chicago, for instance, that $40K/year wouldn't go nearly as far.
 
evince said:
bullshit

I gave FACTS to back my assertions

you shits gave mouth pooping
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Jesus Evince.
For a single parent it is still more than 1.5 times poverty level, with great benifits and the opportunity to work all summer for extra income.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Again a non-sequitur. States like MA with high median incomes for Educators don't seem to have a problem finding and retaining top talent for their public schools. Same here in Ohio in communities like mine where we pay well above the median.

Maybe we should talk about where money is really wasted in public education like lack of over sight in spending by local school boards. Bloated and unchecked bureaucracy, inconsistent contracting processes, toothless internal auditing systems, inefficient, obsolete and often excessive operations costs, excessive numbers of administrators with excessive pay at the cost of classroom instruction, high administrative and operations spending as a percentage of total spending, poor budgeting and board governance.

Now teachers salaries and benefits are the largest single cost but instructional services are what schools are there to perform and those instructional costs (mostly teachers salaries and benefits) are often negatively impacted by the issues I just described. Maybe it's these issues that need to be scrutinized and not greedy teachers unions.
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Maybe the greedy teachers unions contribute to all this waste. Ever consider that?
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/cost-...-cities-2015-8


dudes the reality is not what you claim





It will only cost you about $49,114 a year to raise a family in Morristown, Tennessee, but if you move to Washington, DC, that expense more that doubles, to $106,493.




That's according to the Economic Policy Institute's 2015 Family Budget Calculator, which measures the annual cost of necessities for a family to live a secure yet modest lifestyle by estimating the costs of housing, food, child care, transportation, healthcare, other necessities, and taxes.
(Read the EPI's full methodology for the budget calculator here.)
The EPI gathered data in 618 metro areas throughout the US for several different family types. Here, we've highlighted the cost of living for a four-person family (two adults, two children) in 20 major US cities.
If you're looking to start a family in an urban area, consider the annual and monthly cost of necessities, and remember, these numbers do not include savings or discretionary spending:







there is a list of cities and their cost


LOOK AT IT


49K is the low guys
 
evince said:
40 k a year is not a decent INCOME
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But is it a decent starting income for someone who may or may not stay with that career path? I hunk that’s really the question. What if they can get to the $50k level in 6-12 years? Is that satisfactory? Tough questions, I know.
 
20. Houston, Texas

Houston City Hall. Shutterstock
Estimated cost of annual necessities: $60,608
Estimated cost of monthly necessities: $5,051
 
Rune said:
Jesus Evince.
For a single parent it is still more than 1.5 times poverty level, with great benifits and the opportunity to work all summer for extra income.
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Some days I’d take the 40K—if it came with summers off, and call it a win lol.
 
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