Oklahoma Bible mandate challenged in Court

[Tobytone]

Oklahoma families, teachers and faith leaders file lawsuit to block Superintendent Ryan Walters’ Bible-education mandate​

OKLAHOMA CITY – More than 30 Oklahomans – including parents and children, public school teachers and faith leaders – today filed a lawsuit urging the Oklahoma Supreme Court to block state Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters’ mandate that all public schools incorporate the Bible into their curricula.

The 32 plaintiffs include 14 public school parents, four public school teachers and three faith leaders who object to Walters’ extremist agenda that imposes his personal religious beliefs on other people's children – in violation of Oklahomans’ religious freedom and the separation of church and state. The plaintiffs come from a variety of faith traditions, including Baptist, Catholic, Presbyterian (U.S.A.) and United Church of Christ, and some identify as atheist, agnostic or nonreligious. Some are of Indigenous heritage, and some have family situations – such as LGBTQ+ members or children with special educational needs – that cause particular concerns around teaching the Bible in public schools, especially around bullying.

Oklahoma families, teachers and faith leaders file lawsuit to block Superintendent Ryan Walters’ Bible-education mandate

More than 30 Oklahomans – including parents and children, public school teachers and faith leaders – today filed a lawsuit urging the Oklahoma Supreme Court to block state Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters’ mandate that all public schools incorporate the Bible into their curricula.

www.acluok.org

Shocking, something challenged in court?? What's this? It's so unusual for libtard's to run to libtard judges every time an anti-libtard measure is taken. I can't believe it. Well actually the democrats have run to the courts over 500 times since January 20th compared to 50 for Biden and 30 for Obama. Hmmm, I wonder if there's a pattern forming.

 

[gmark77]

Shocking, something challenged in court?? What's this? It's so unusual for libtard's to run to libtard judges every time an anti-libtard measure is taken.

I believe this might be what normal people call the "Justice System". I'm sure in your world people run to the courts when everything is going well.

I can't believe it.

Welcome to America. Until recently we had a functioning judiciary.

Well actually the democrats have run to the courts over 500 times since January 20th compared to 50 for Biden and 30 for Obama. Hmmm, I wonder if there's a pattern forming.

Yeah: your guy is breaking all the laws.

 

[Cypress]

Shocking, something challenged in court?? What's this? It's so unusual for libtard's to run to libtard judges every time an anti-libtard measure is taken!!

^^^ This is written by a guy who cheered when Trump took his election 2020 lawsuits to court 60 times.

 

[Tobytone]

I believe this might be what normal people call the "Justice System". I'm sure in your world people run to the courts when everything is going well.



Welcome to America. Until recently we had a functioning judiciary.



Yeah: your guy is breaking all the laws.

Why are so many judgments overturned? The left’s lost too many voters to win elections and hold real power, so lucky for them, they’ve crammed the courts with brain-dead ideologues and activists to shove their batshit agenda down America’s throat or should I say prevent the will of the people from being implemented. Libtard democracy at its finest.

 

[Tobytone]

^^^ This is written by a guy who cheered when Trump took his election 2020 lawsuits to court 60 times.

Deflection much?? 500 to 30. Let's not talk about how many have been overturned. More judges have had their bias shoved up their ass than ever before in the history of courts, it's not even close. I wonder why?

 

[Cypress]

Deflection much?? 500 to 30. Let's not talk about how many have been overturned. More judges have had their bias shoved up their ass than ever before in the history of courts, it's not even close. I wonder why?

You cheered wildly as your Messiah brought forward, and then lost case after case after case after case in his election 2020 lawsuits.

 

[Cypress]

Rubbish. Kids were studying Latin and Greek in grade school by the 2nd and 3rd grades before the 'reforms' hit in the late 1960's and the dumbing down and grade inflation began. Just because a handful of tards might not be able to handle it doesn't require that everybody else be idiots as well.

College physics classes could have required us to read Newton's Principia because it is so classic and iconic.

But they don't. Know why?

That's right. Because in the interest of education, we weren't required to slog through Latin or any dense and archaic 16th century language. Instead we were given books written in contemporary English to learn about mechanics.

 

[EdwinA]

College physics classes could have required us to read Newton's Principia because it is so classic and iconic.

But they don't. Know why?

That's right. Because in the interest of education, we weren't required to slog through Latin or any dense and archaic 16th century language. Instead we were given books written in contemporary English to learn about mechanics.

Because it isn't a history and language class, it's a physics class.

What a stupid attempt at rebuttal. Before the Dumbing Down, which you apparently approve of, we had to learn Greek and LAtin suffixes and prefixes as part of English studies.

I can see where you short bus types would have struggled with that, but then kids were allowed to drop out in 8th grade then and seek employment via hardship reasons, so you would have had options instead of dragging down the rest of the classes with dumbassery and confused whining. Learning those prefixes and suffixes was also a great aid in science classes, where they were used extensively in the scientific languages, especially subjects like biology . If you had ever taken any science courses you would have known that.

 

[Yakuda]

Oklahoma families, teachers and faith leaders file lawsuit to block Superintendent Ryan Walters’ Bible-education mandate​

OKLAHOMA CITY – More than 30 Oklahomans – including parents and children, public school teachers and faith leaders – today filed a lawsuit urging the Oklahoma Supreme Court to block state Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters’ mandate that all public schools incorporate the Bible into their curricula.

The 32 plaintiffs include 14 public school parents, four public school teachers and three faith leaders who object to Walters’ extremist agenda that imposes his personal religious beliefs on other people's children – in violation of Oklahomans’ religious freedom and the separation of church and state. The plaintiffs come from a variety of faith traditions, including Baptist, Catholic, Presbyterian (U.S.A.) and United Church of Christ, and some identify as atheist, agnostic or nonreligious. Some are of Indigenous heritage, and some have family situations – such as LGBTQ+ members or children with special educational needs – that cause particular concerns around teaching the Bible in public schools, especially around bullying.

Oklahoma families, teachers and faith leaders file lawsuit to block Superintendent Ryan Walters’ Bible-education mandate

More than 30 Oklahomans – including parents and children, public school teachers and faith leaders – today filed a lawsuit urging the Oklahoma Supreme Court to block state Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters’ mandate that all public schools incorporate the Bible into their curricula.

www.acluok.org

But letting kids read books about lgbtqwxyz÷by4 is entirely acceptable.

 

[Cypress]

But letting kids read books about lgbtqwxyz÷by4 is entirely acceptable.

Nebulous assertions aren't convincing.

Name specific books elementary school children are required to read, and explain in your own words why you think they are so objectionable.

I don't have any problem with a comparative religious studies course being offered in middle school or high school.

 

[EdwinA]

But letting kids read books about lgbtqwxyz÷by4 is entirely acceptable.

Yes, and packing the libraries with faggot porn and grooming books. These are some very sick and psychotic vermin. Feeding them drugs and hormones and encouraging extreme sexual mutilations is another acceptable fashion with these amoral freaks.

 

[EdwinA]

Learning physics and chemistry can be easier with a base in Greek and Latin; such a background can lead to being generally able to tell what words means just by reading them and speed up the learning process considerably, and not just in science terminology but in several languages as well.

AI Overview



Physics uses common prefixes like
electro- (electricity), hydro- (water), and thermo- (heat) from Greek, and suffixes like -ic (relating to), -ion (state or action), and -oid (like) to describe phenomena. Prefixes such as kilo-, mega-, micro-, and nano- are crucial for SI units, modifying base units to represent large or small quantities.

Greek Prefixes & Suffixes

• Thermo- (Greek: thermos): Heat. Example: Thermocouple, a device to measure temperature changes.

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• Photo- (Greek: photos): Light. Example: Photon, a particle of light.
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• Electro- (Greek: elektron): Electricity or amber. Example: Electromagnetism, the relationship between electricity and magnetism.
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• Hydro- (Greek: hydor): Water. Example: Hydropower, energy derived from water.
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• Chir- (Greek: cheir): Of the hands. Example: Chirality, a property of a molecule that cannot be superimposed on its mirror image.
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• Cosm- (Greek: kosmos): Universe, world. Example: Cosmic dust, particles found throughout the universe.
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• -oid (Greek: -oeidēs): Like, form. Example: Asteroid, a rocky body that is "star-like" in appearance.
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• Symmetry (Greek: symmetria): Measure together. Example: Symmetry, where the two halves of an object are identical.

Latin Prefixes & Suffixes

• Sub- (Latin): Under or below. Example: Subatomic, referring to particles smaller than an atom.

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• Super- (Latin): Above or over. Example: Supernova, an exploding star that is incredibly bright.
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• Inter- (Latin): Between or among. Example: Interstellar, existing between or among stars.
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• Trans- (Latin): Across or through. Example: Transistor, a semiconductor device that transmits and controls electric current.
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• Centri- (Latin: centrum): Center. Example: Centrifugal force, a force that pulls away from a central axis.
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• -ic (Latin: -icus): Suffix forming adjectives meaning having to do with or made of. Example: Electric, relating to electricity.
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• -ion (Latin: -io): Suffix that forms nouns of state or action. Example: Electron, the negatively charged particle.
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• Capacitor (Latin: capere): Hold, take. Example: Capacitor, a device that stores electric charge.

SI (Metric) Unit Prefixes (Derived from Greek & Latin)

• Kilo- (Greek: khilioi): Thousand. Example: Kilogram (10^3 grams).

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• Mega- (Greek: megas): Million. Example: Megahertz (10^6 Hertz).
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• Micro- (Greek: mikros): Millionth. Example: Micrometer (10^-6 meters).
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• Milli- (Latin: mille): Thousand

 

[Yakuda]

Nebulous assertions aren't convincing.

Name specific books elementary school children are required to read, and explain in your own words why you think they are so objectionable.

I don't have any problem with a comparative religious studies course being offered in middle school or high school.

Will this law REQUIRE anyone to read the Bible? What we know is the woke madness has griped schools for years and parents have been thrown out of school board meetings for reading from books available in the library bat their kids schools. Stop being stupid.

Why should anyone give a shit what you may or may not have a problems with if you don't give a shit about what others have a problem with?

 

[gmark77]

All of the writings about ethics in western civilization for the last two thousand years have basically just been footnotes to the sermon on the mount,

Hey, I'm listening to a debate between Charles Knecthle and Alex O'Connor and Knechtle just rolled out the line that all the teachings of ethics in the last 2000 years "are just footnotes on the Sermon on the Mount". He attributed it to Robert Cowles of Harvard.

Is that where you got the line?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Nebulous assertions aren't convincing.

Name specific books elementary school children are required to read, and explain in your own words why you think they are so objectionable.

I don't have any problem with a comparative religious studies course being offered in middle school or high school.

Agreed on teaching comparative religions. Americans should be given a world class education including the cultures and religions of other nations. Most other nations, especially those in the trade world, make English a mandatory in schools. This is smart on two ways: realistically in a world where English was the common trading language and, as noted in the link below, bilingual have a cognitive advantage over monolingual people.

Notice the difference between those who want to grow and those who want to build walls around themselves. Most of those in the latter bunch are weird. Usually, sex criminals too.

Countries in which English Language is a Mandatory or an Optional Subject (interactive) | Global English Education Policy | The University of Winnipeg

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Countries in which English Language is a Mandatory or an Optional Subject (interactive)​

The Cognitive Benefits of Being Bilingual - PMC

Today, more of the world’s population is bilingual or multilingual than monolingual. In addition to facilitating cross-cultural communication, this trend also positively affects cognitive abilities. Researchers have shown that the bilingual brain ...

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Today, more of the world’s population is bilingual or multilingual than monolingual. In addition to facilitating cross-cultural communication, this trend also positively affects cognitive abilities. Researchers have shown that the bilingual brain can have better attention and task-switching capacities than the monolingual brain, thanks to its developed ability to inhibit one language while using another. In addition, bilingualism has positive effects at both ends of the age spectrum: Bilingual children as young as seven months can better adjust to environmental changes, while bilingual seniors can experience less cognitive decline.

 

[Cypress]

Hey, I'm listening to a debate between Charles Knecthle and Alex O'Connor and Knechtle just rolled out the line that all the teachings of ethics in the last 2000 years "are just footnotes on the Sermon on the Mount". He attributed it to Robert Cowles of Harvard.

Is that where you got the line?

As I have written previously, somebody said that all of the history of western ethics are just footnotes to the Sermon on the Mount. But I don't remember who said that or where I read it.

Alfred White Northhead said all of western philosophy is a series of footnotes to Plato, and it's been said all of western ethics are just footnotes to the Sermon on the Mount.

 

[Cypress]

Agreed on teaching comparative religions. Americans should be given a world class education including the cultures and religions of other nations. Most other nations, especially those in the trade world, make English a mandatory in schools. This is smart on two ways: realistically in a world where English was the common trading language and, as noted in the link below, bilingual have a cognitive advantage over monolingual people.

Notice the difference between those who want to grow and those who want to build walls around themselves. Most of those in the latter bunch are weird. Usually, sex criminals too.

Countries in which English Language is a Mandatory or an Optional Subject (interactive) | Global English Education Policy | The University of Winnipeg

www.uwinnipeg.ca

Countries in which English Language is a Mandatory or an Optional Subject (interactive)​

The Cognitive Benefits of Being Bilingual - PMC

Today, more of the world’s population is bilingual or multilingual than monolingual. In addition to facilitating cross-cultural communication, this trend also positively affects cognitive abilities. Researchers have shown that the bilingual brain ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Today, more of the world’s population is bilingual or multilingual than monolingual. In addition to facilitating cross-cultural communication, this trend also positively affects cognitive abilities. Researchers have shown that the bilingual brain can have better attention and task-switching capacities than the monolingual brain, thanks to its developed ability to inhibit one language while using another. In addition, bilingualism has positive effects at both ends of the age spectrum: Bilingual children as young as seven months can better adjust to environmental changes, while bilingual seniors can experience less cognitive decline.

Good point.

Teachers shouldn't be leading prayers, and science class shouldn't be teaching creation science.

But nobody has ever adequately explained to me why a bible, a Torah, a Baghavad Gita, the Hadith should be prohibited from the school library.

You can't teach western history and civilization without delving into the importance of Christianity, and you can't explain the origins and history of America without broaching Protestantism.

 

[gmark77]

As I have written previously, somebody said that all of the history of western ethics are just footnotes to the Sermon on the Mount. But I don't remember who said that or where I read it.

The same word "footnote". That was interesting.

 

[Cypress]

The same word "footnote". That was interesting.

Thanks for tacitly acknowledging that I have identified the quote being attributed to someone else.

Alfred White Northhead said all of western philosophy is a series of footnotes to Plato, and it's been said all of western ethics are just footnotes to the Sermon on the Mount.

What's interesting is you following in my footsteps and emulating me in who I watch on YouTube. I mentioned I watch Alex O'Connor, and suddenly now you're watching him.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Thanks for tacitly acknowledging that I have identified the quote being attributed to someone else.

What's interesting is you following in my footsteps and emulating who I watch on YouTube. I mentioned I watch Alex O'Connor, and suddenly now you're watching him.

Perry's obsession with you is the most interesting part about him. Weird!