Oh, and the moderator seems eager to interrupt Ryan, not so much with Biden.
Why did Biden need a knockout?I'd say that was pretty even with a slight edge to Ryan. However, Biden needed a knockout and just looked like he was desperate to get everything they stuffed into his head out all at once. The constant interruptions looked unprofessional and actually made him seem weaker rather than "aggressive".
However, a democrat may see it as better than Obama and become slightly more encouraged so you have to give him some points.
The moderator did better later helping Biden quiet down and look a little better, but too little too late. Ryan's closing made it lean more to his side. Way better than Biden's, at least according to those watching (the little line below the screen)...
That's my summation, basically. Slight Ryan win when all he really needed to do is keep it even.
Judging by response on PMSNBC it was a draw
Oh, poor boys, don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot! Waaaaa!
Ryan got schooled. Biden takes the debate.
Why did Biden need a knockout?
When Romney won, I admitted it.
Biden won, and they can't stand it.
jarod, "admitting" romney won means absolutely nothing. everyone and their grandma knew romney won the first debate
shockerI see it as a total Ryan win in style, presentation and substance, and Biden not only lost, but humiliated himself by not showing the civility of a well-trained baboon. His demeanor the entire debate was behavior unbecoming any public official, in my opinion. His constant disrespectful smirking and interrupting were annoying and arrogant, and he came across as a complete asshole jerk. Now maybe condescending asshole jerks appeal to the independent voters? I don't know... I do know that mainstream America is generally not turned on by such. So if it's possible for Biden to have hurt his campaign more than he did tonight, I don't know how... but of course, this IS Joe Biden, I am sure it was possible for him to have been a bigger embarrassment, and if that is the standard we go by, he didn't completely fail, he never put his underwear on his head or start singing Yankee Doodle... so there's that.