Ode to the Climate Science-Denier

Cypress

Well-known member
NASA:

Hottest April on Record.
Honest Jan-April temperatures on record.


NASA: “It is nearly certain that a new record 12-month global temperature will be set in 2010.”

"We conclude that global temperature continued to rise rapidly in the past decade" and "that there has been no reduction in the global warming trend of 0.15-0.20°C/decade that began in the late 1970s."

Current GISS Global Surface Temperature Analysis
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/paper/gistemp2010_draft0319.pdf

Dr. Jim Hansen:

“This new record temperature will be particularly meaningful because it occurs when the recent minimum of solar irradiance is having its maximum cooling effect.”

“Climate gate” conspiracy theorists, flat-earth climate science deniers, and creationist republicans will almost certainly be judged extremely harshly by history. I wonder how they will explain to their kids and grandkids why they spent decades enabling a rightwing propaganda campaign against science.”

Ode to the Science-Denier

”A climate denier has a position staked out in advance, and sorts through the data employing "confirmation bias" - the tendency to look for and find confirmatory evidence for pre-existing beliefs and ignore or dismiss the rest. …

Science is scepticism and good scientists are sceptical.

Denial is different.

It is the automatic gainsaying of a claim regardless of the evidence for it - sometimes even in the teeth of evidence. Denialism is typically driven by ideology or religious belief, where the commitment to the belief takes precedence over the evidence. Belief comes first, reasons for belief follow, and those reasons are winnowed to ensure that the belief survives intact.


--Rich Littlmore”


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nearly certain

:lol:

even if it is....it has been proven that the earth goes through cycles....no one denies that, you're being stupid here
 
There’s nothing natural about this "cycle", Professor.

The world’s best climate scientists – the ones who actually do the research, not the peanut gallery dudes who sit around writing blogs or editorial columns – have concluded that the magnitude and acceleration of the current warming trend is well outside the parameters of natural variation. And that there’s an extremely high probability that humans are the primary cause of this rapid warming trend.

Don’t take my word for it.

This is what every single reputable science organization on the planet, that has expertise in climate science, has concluded.

Let me ask you this: if eleven out of twelve world famous neurosurgeons told you that there was a very high likelihood that you had brain cancer, would you blow them off and dismiss them off as a cabal of lying, liberal medical scientists? No, you wouldn’t.


Republicans were hellbent to invade Iraq, and bomb Iran’s to the tune of trillions of dollars of taxpayer money, on evidence (allegations, actually) that was dozens of orders of magnitude weaker than the science of global warming. Why is that?
 
you're funny....first its global warming...now the "experts" simply call it global change....and more and more scientist are disputing the warmers...

you got nothing...you guys can't even keep global warming crap up anymore
 
There’s nothing natural about this "cycle", Professor.

The world’s best climate scientists – the ones who actually do the research, not the peanut gallery dudes who sit around writing blogs or editorial columns – have concluded that the magnitude and acceleration of the current warming trend is well outside the parameters of natural variation. And that there’s an extremely high probability that humans are the primary cause of this rapid warming trend.

Don’t take my word for it.

This is what every single reputable science organization on the planet, that has expertise in climate science, has concluded.

Let me ask you this: if eleven out of twelve world famous neurosurgeons told you that there was a very high likelihood that you had brain cancer, would you blow them off and dismiss them off as a cabal of lying, liberal medical scientists? No, you wouldn’t.


Republicans were hellbent to invade Iraq, and bomb Iran’s to the tune of trillions of dollars of taxpayer money, on evidence (allegations, actually) that was dozens of orders of magnitude weaker than the science of global warming. Why is that?

Cypress, you may be interested in the following. I think that you will recognize, that is if you can get beyond your indoctrinated bias, that Mr. Abdussamatov is clearly one who does research on global climate. And, I think that Mr. Abdussamatove completely refutes your indoctrinated, biased opinion of the cause of global warming.

May 17, 2010
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

CHICAGO – A new "Little Ice Age" could begin in just four years, predicted Habibullo Abdussamatov, the head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia.


Abdussamatov was speaking yesterday at the Heartland Institute's Fourth International Conference on Climate Change in Chicago, which began Sunday and ends today.

The Little Ice Age, which occurred after an era known in scientific circles as the Medieval Warm Period, is typically defined as a period of about 200 years, beginning around 1650 and extending through 1850.

In the first of a two-part video WND recorded at the conference, Abdussamatov explained that average annual sun activity has experienced an accelerated decrease since the 1990s. In 2005-2008, he said, the earth reached the maximum of the recent observed global-warming trend.

In Part 2 of the video, Abdussamatov further explained that through 2014 the earth will go through a series of unstable variations in which global temperature will oscillate around the maximum reached in the years 1998-2005.

In 2003-2005, Abdussamatov predicted a reduction of sunspot activity that would reach a new minimum in 2042, resulting in a deep global temperature minimum in the years 2055-2060.

"My predictions are looking better and better with each passing year," Abdussamatov declared.

Space station to refine predictions

In his capacity of the head of the Russian-Ukrainian project "Astrometria" on the Russian segment of the International Space Station, Abdussamatov is conducting additional research to refine his prediction that a new Little Ice Age will begin in 2014.

As seen in Part 2 of the video, Abdussamatov explained to the climate conference that the Russian segment of the ISS is scheduled to collect more precise data on sun activity over the next six years.

"If the Astrometria project is developed in time," Abdussamatov said, "we will be able to develop a more precise forecast of the duration and the depth of the approaching new Little Ice Age and to understand the reasons of cyclical changes taking place in the interior of the sun and the ways they affect the Earth and various scopes of human activity."

Abdussamatov's theory is that "long-term variations in the amount of solar energy reaching the Earth are the main and principal reasons driving and defining the whole mechanism of climatic changes from the global warmings to the Little Ice Ages to the big glacial periods."

In his speech's conclusion, Abdussamatov took on advocates of the theory of man-caused warming who want to diminish human use of hydrocarbon fuels. He contended, instead, that a reasonable way to combat coming cooling trends would be "to maintain economic growth in order to adapt to the upcoming new Little Ice Age in the middle of the 21st century."

Sun activity determines temperatures

Abdussamatov's research amounts to a sharp rebuke of climate scientists who believe human-generated carbon dioxide is responsible for causing catastrophic global warming, issuing instead a news flash announcing "Sun Heats Earth!"

WND previously reported Abdussamatov published a paper in which he tracked sunspot activity going back to the 19th century to argue that total sun irradiance, or TSI, is the primary factor responsible for causing climate variations on Earth, not carbon dioxide.

Moreover, Abdussamatov's analysis of sun activity data has led him to conclude that the Earth is entering a prolonged cooling phase, because sunspot activity is currently in a phase regarded as a "minimum."

"Observations of the sun show that as for the increase in temperature, carbon doioxide is 'not guilty,'" Abdussamatov wrote, "and as for what lies ahead in the coming decades, it is not catastrophic warming, but a global, and very prolonged temperature drop."

Abdussamatov's paper is featured on page 140 of a 2009 report issued by the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, documenting more than 700 scientists who disagree that global warming is an anthropogenic, or man-made, phenomenon.

As historical support for his theory, Abdussamatov cited the observations in 1893 by the English astronomer Walter Maunder, who came to the conclusion that from 1645 to 1715 sunspots had been generally absent. That period coincided with the middle and coldest part of the Little Ice Age.

Abdussamatov also observed "the most significant solar event in the 20th century was the extraordinarily high level and the prolonged (virtually over the entire century) increase in the energy radiated by the sun," resulting in the global warming that today climate alarmists believe is a man-made phenomenon.

"The intense solar energy flow radiated since the beginning of the 1990s is slowly and decreasingly and, in spite of conventional opinion, there is now an unavoidable advance toward a global decrease, a deep temperature drop comparable to the Maunder minimum," he wrote.

In his published paper, Abdussamatov warned that more precise determination of when the global temperature decrease will arrive and how deep it will be may not be available for another eight years from his space station research.

"The observed global warming of the climate of the Earth is not caused by the anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gasses, but by extraordinarily high solar intensity that extended over virtually the entire past century," Abdussamatov wrote. "Future decrease in global temperature will occur even if anthropogenic ejection of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere rises to record levels.

"Over the past decade, global temperature on the Earth has not increased; global warming has ceased, and already there are signs of the future deep temperature drop."

Abdussamatov concluded Earth is no longer threatened by the catastrophic global warming forecast by some scientists, since warming passed its peak in 1998-2005.

"The global temperature of the Earth has begun its decrease without limits on the volume of greenhouse gas emissions by industrial developed countries," he wrote. "Therefore, the implementation of the Kyoto Protocol aimed to rescue the planet from the greenhouse effect should be put off at least 150 years."

In 2007, National Geographic published Abdussamatov's explanation that the global warming observed in the shrinking of the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mar's South Pole was caused by reduced solar activity.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," Abdussamatov wrote.

Some 700 policymakers, opinion leaders, elected national and state legislators, scientists, economists and media are attending the Heartland Institute conference. The come from a wide range of countries, including the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Australia and Mexico.

The Heartland Institute is a non-profit organization funded by 1,500 donors. The organization says no corporate donor provides more than 5 percent of its $7 million annual budget.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=155225
 
cypress is a true warmer LOL


what an idiot. They cook the books cypress. They splice real temps onto records with margins of error that are greater thasn the supposed catastrophic warming. LOL

learn some statistics, you fucking retard
 
Apparently Cypress just reads from left wing blogs and doesn't bother with the actual research he posted

The research he linked to....

1) Shows every global temp chart with no significant increase in global temps from 1998 to present

2) States clearly that the stations in Africa and South America are not very reliable

3) Shows that the US has continued seeing a decline

4) Shows there are a tiny amount of data stations in Canada (at least in the higher latitudes) meaning they have to 'extrapolate' the data (groups like East Anglia can't reproduce their raw data)

Cypress the flat earther also refuses to answer:

1) Why did one of his beloved masters state in the BBC interview that there was no significant warming over the past 15 years? (he will pretend he has 'answered' this before, yet he can't seem to link to anything other than some bullshit rantings about my not using the BBC article... despite the BBC article being quoted from directly and linked to)

2) He refuses to see why the government agencies who have been pumping billions of dollars into global warming (now climate change since we really aren't seeing warming anymore) research would have a vested interest in global warming being 'a real threat'. Likewise, he can't seem to understand why 'scientists' who receive those billions would want to continue perpetuating the myth of global warming (I mean climate change)

3) He refuses to acknowledge that Jones stated quite clearly that there isn't enough evidence to prove one way or the other that the medieval period was warmer than today. Though the data that does exist does suggest it.

side note: it is interesting that the research link Cypress provided states that African and South American stations are not reliable, but they use it anyway for their global warming fearmongering.... yet it was a 'lack of reliable data from the southern hemisphere that they tout as a reason for not having enough data to see if the medieval period was warmer.

Bottom line: Cypress is a brain dead flat earth global warming fear mongerer who simply wishes to take more of your money and throw it to these 'scientists' who aren't even intelligent enough to keep their raw data. Then he wants to impose cap and trade schemes on the world so that we can further the effort of transferring wealth.... because that is ALL the cap and trade schemes do.
 
But give Cypress credit... he believes NASA knows what the weather will do for the rest of the year....

NASA: “It is nearly certain that a new record 12-month global temperature will be set in 2010.”

4.5 months into the year and already NASA knows 2010 will be the hottest year on record. That is truly amazing.
 
10,000 Pieces of evidence that support the theory of global climate change...

1 was found to be based on fraudulent data and the Fox News and Drill Baby crowd go crazy saying its proof that the entire thing is made up.
 
10,000 Pieces of evidence that support the theory of global climate change...

1 was found to be based on fraudulent data and the Fox News and Drill Baby crowd go crazy saying its proof that the entire thing is made up.

There is no proof, there is only your fascist hallucination.
 
But give Cypress credit... he believes NASA knows what the weather will do for the rest of the year....



4.5 months into the year and already NASA knows 2010 will be the hottest year on record. That is truly amazing.

WOW. I didn't even read that before. LOL
I can't believe they would show such obvious bias.
 
10,000 Pieces of evidence that support the theory of global climate change...

1 was found to be based on fraudulent data and the Fox News and Drill Baby crowd go crazy saying its proof that the entire thing is made up.


LOL it's far more than "one thing".
Dude, you don't even understand the problem with the statistical misuse of real temps to give the impression that recent CO2 concentration has affected the temps based on the tree ring growth. The real temps do not reflect the tree ring widths for the time period they represent. Tree ring width decresed recently despite increased CO2 and supposedly warmest temps ever. In order to make the tree rings the thermometer, the scientists has to misuse statistics and fool idiots like you who don't understand.


Learn some statistics

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This is an issue of science vs. religion. The back ward thinking religious fanatics want to denigh scientific proof so they can still believe in their primitive mythology with out looking like kooks.
 
This is an issue of science vs. religion. The back ward thinking religious fanatics want to denigh scientific proof so they can still believe in their primitive mythology with out looking like kooks.

Most climate change deniers deny it on the basis of science.

The science behind the lie of global warming was recently proven to be fraudulent.
 
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