Obama Vs. Bush On Debt

Dixie said:
Oh, I know, you are conservative as the day is long, I've 'thanked' many of your brilliant posts over the years. I think that's what bothers me the most about your comments. A fitting analogy would be, if your car wasn't running well, and you decided that taking a baseball bat to it might help... it won't, but it may make you feel better to bash your car all to hell. There is only one party that can defeat Obama and the Democrats, and it doesn't help to pound them with a baseball bat over stuff they did in the past. You don't like the Republican establishment? Fine! Don't vote for Mitt Romney! Stop supporting whatever yahoo the establishment tells you to, and nominate someone who feels the same as you and I on the direction of the Republican party and the country.
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I'll tell you two things I've done. One my best friends mom's was appointed Head of the U.S. mint during Bush's first term and then she got appointed to the state department I believe during his second term. My friend got married in '06. Of course I got drunk at the wedding. I probably talked his poor mom's ear off for close to 20 minutes about Bush, the Republicans and their spending problem until someone mercifully pulled me away from her. His mom still talks about me to this day. 'Your friend Cawacko is really passionate about the Republican Party'. Well the real truth is I was passionate about reducing spending. If the Democrats came out and proposed reducing spending in a way I liked I would support it but that's neither here nor there. People need to speak their mind to the party imo.

And because I have a death wish on Saturday and Sunday mornings on occassion I would walk down the busy retail streets of SF wearing my Bush Country shirt. This was during his first two years of office. I was embarrassed to wear it after that. I would have my sunglasses on so I could watch people's reaction to the shirt. I would literally see people have a viceral reaction right in the street it pissed them off so much. I also had tennis shoes on in case I had to run. A bit of hyperbole here but at times it felt like walking by the KKK wearing a Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton shirt.
 
cawacko said:
I'll tell you two things I've done. One my best friends mom's was appointed Head of the U.S. mint during Bush's first term and then she got appointed to the state department I believe during his second term. My friend got married in '06. Of course I got drunk at the wedding. I probably talked his poor mom's ear off for close to 20 minutes about Bush, the Republicans and their spending problem until someone mercifully pulled me away from her. His mom still talks about me to this day. 'Your friend Cawacko is really passionate about the Republican Party'. Well the real truth is I was passionate about reducing spending. If the Democrats came out and proposed reducing spending in a way I liked I would support it but that's neither here nor there. People need to speak their mind to the party imo.

And because I have a death wish on Saturday and Sunday mornings on occassion I would walk down the busy retail streets of SF wearing my Bush Country shirt. This was during his first two years of office. I was embarrassed to wear it after that. I would have my sunglasses on so I could watch people's reaction to the shirt. I would literally see people have a viceral reaction right in the street it pissed them off so much. I also had tennis shoes on in case I had to run. A bit of hyperbole here but at times it felt like walking by the KKK wearing a Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton shirt.
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Wacko I respect the fact that you live in Fruit Loop Ground Zero... I know that must be tough... but I see this all the time from the 'libertarian' types... it's a fall-back position of comfort. Blame them all... They ALL need to be thrown out of office! ....But, replace them with what, I ask? It's frustrating to me, we get to hear you vent your frustrations with Bush's spending, but Bush isn't the president, isn't running for president... no one is advocating Bush spending policies, with the exception of Obama, who has TRIPLED them! So why devote your energy to railing on Republicans, when it's the Republicans who have to beat Obama in 2012?

Look, I never say to anyone, that I am a "Republican" ...I am a conservative. I am both fiscal and socially conservative, and believe they must go together to work as an effective political ideology. But we are in an economic mess right now, so my inclinations are to favor strong fiscal conservative policies over social policy. In fact, whenever we even talk about "social policy" we're really talking about spending more money we don't have on something. Compassionate Conservatism is a prime example. Bush has the distinction of putting more minorities and poor in homes, than ever before in history.... but that came at a cost, didn't it? We can be objective and honest about mistakes of the past, I've often said, the Bush family is not Ronald Reagan Conservative... and that is truth. Clinton, I think, actually understood Reaganomics better than either Bush. But all of this is water under the bridge now, it doesn't help accomplish a thing to rehash it. As conservatives, our objectives should remain forward-looking, and not mired in bitterness with the past.. we can't change that.
 
Ronald Reagan raised taxes, ran up a huge debt and agreed to deficit limit increases.


Was he a 'true' conservative?
 
Superfreak said:
I agree. Likewise, in time the whole nonsense of 'he had a surplus' will be put to rest. Very few on the left ever mention that Bush inherited a recession, instead they harp on that imaginary 'surplus'.
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Does that mean the Teatards who give the GOP Congress & Newt credit for the "imaginary" Clinton surplus are lying?
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Hope Solo said:
The current one won't get a single vote from Congress if it goes the convention route. :cof1:
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When's the last time that happened? :cof1:


BTW, here's Hope's reaction to a puerile soft-core porn peddler using her name and image on the internet:



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