Obama says GOP is crippling the USA

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What is it going to take to break through the partisan shell conservatives are burried under these days?

Isn't the economy bad enough already?
 
It won't ever be "bad enough" to suit the Right unless they get Perry elected, then they'll blame Obama when their tired old tax and spending cut prescription fails again.
 
Return of Dune said:
What is it going to take to break through the partisan shell conservatives are burried under these days?

Isn't the economy bad enough already?
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yes, thanks to Obama it is even worse than it was in 2008. Funny that Dems have a hard time realizing that Obama and the Dems have blocked Rep efforts to stabilize and grow the economy as well. Just because someone says NO to YOUR ideas on how to grow the economy doesn't mean they don't want to do anything.
 
Also.... why don't you all list for us everything the Senate has passed with regards to building the economy. While you are at it, please show us the budget the Senate has passed.....
 
Return of Dune said:
Can you answer my question?
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First I will say that the TEA Party is a movement of individuals, not a political party itself. Then I will attempt to answer your question based on what a majority of those you call 'the TP' have done.

I think they have done what they can that is agreeable to their political ideology, economic theory, and the fact that they are a minority of only one of the parities in the Congress. Now, are you going to answer mine? Do you believe that the Democratic party is pristine and innocent of all political posturing and partisan bickering in this debate?

It's just deliberate ignorance that allows "the left" to pretend that it's not posturing to call one side "hostage takers" in one breath and then to demand a harmony that you are unwilling to partake in...

This is the guy who told us, "We won" and basically to shut up therefore, when he first took office. Well, you won, and your policies have wrought what we now have. They've been there less than a year and already we know that whatever comes will be far different than those disastrous policies when Obama had a blank check...
 
Damocles said:
First I will say that the TEA Party is a movement of individuals, not a political party itself. Then I will attempt to answer your question based on what a majority of those you call 'the TP' have done.

I think they have done what they can that is agreeable to their political ideology, economic theory, and the fact that they are a minority of only one of the parities in the Congress. Now, are you going to answer mine? Do you believe that the Democratic party is pristine and innocent of all political posturing and partisan bickering in this debate?

It's just deliberate ignorance that allows "the left" to pretend that it's not posturing to call one side "hostage takers" in one breath and then to demand a harmony that you are unwilling to partake in...

This is the guy who told us, "We won" and basically to shut up therefore, when he first took office. Well, you won, and your policies have wrought what we now have. They've been there less than a year and already we know that whatever comes will be far different than those disastrous policies when Obama had a blank check...
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Neither side is perfect by any means, however, the side whose stated goal is to make Obama a one term president is putting politics ahead of the needs of the citizens and the good of the country.

I don't believe the Dems are doing the same.
 
Return of Dune said:
Neither side is perfect by any means, however, the side whose stated goal is to make Obama a one term president is putting politics ahead of the needs of the citizens and the good of the country.

I don't believe the Dems are doing the same.
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That is just silly. It's always the stated goal of the party not in power in the WH to make the other a one term President.

And yeah, they are doing the same. They have Congressional districts they are targeting. They are hoping to kick others out after one term, etc.. And to do it they are willing to demonize them in every way that they can.
 
Damocles said:
That is just silly. It's always the stated goal of the party not in power in the WH to make the other a one term President.

And yeah, they are doing the same. They have Congressional districts they are targeting. They are hoping to kick others out after one term, etc.. And to do it they are willing to demonize them in every way that they can.
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You are just more cynical than I am.
 
Return of Dune said:
You are just more cynical than I am.
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No, I am just less partisan than you are. I can see both sides taking up the charge. I remember what the supposedly pristine left had to say about Bush, what the right had to say about Clinton, what the left had to say about Bush... so on.

It's not that difficult to see the pattern or to read directly those goals. It is just inane to pretend that the republicans should be hoping for a second Obama term "for the sake of the nation"... It's just incredibly silly to come on to a political site and actually say that crap with a straight face. Leave that kind of idiocy for those who don't pay attention.
 
Damocles said:
... It's always the stated goal of the party not in power in the WH to make the other a one term President...
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It is? I've never seen that, until Obama was elected.


Cite some examples comparable to what Senate Minority Leader McConnell said, please.

Let me refresh your memory.




Here's Bach-to-Mom:


Now, can you show something similiar?

Why aren't Republicans working to restore prosperity? The fact that's not their goal speaks volumes.
 
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It is? I've never seen that, until Obama was elected.


Cite some examples comparable to what Senate Minority Leader McConnell said, please.

Let me refresh your memory.




Here's Bach-to-Mom:


Now, can you show something similiar?

Why aren't Republicans working to restore prosperity? The fact that's not their goal speaks volumes.
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LOL. This is idiotic, seriously, it is flat stupid to try to tell people that y'all were thrilled to have another 4 years of GWB because it was never your goal to make him a one-termer... So the party not in the WH never runs anybody against them because they want the other guy to continue?

Let's see what the Democratic Party had to say in 2004... were they "united" in an effort to make Bush a one term President?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A41452-2004Jul10?language=printer

Edwards's addition to the ticket has produced what Kerry advisers had hoped, which is an infusion of energy and enthusiasm to a Democratic Party already united in its determination to make Bush a one-term president. From Ohio to Florida to West Virginia to New Mexico, crowds in battleground states greeting Kerry and Edwards have been large, responsive and obviously upbeat about the running mate.
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Wait... The party wanted to get Bush out of power? How could that be? According to y'all the Democrats were salivating about a Bush second term because there is no way that anybody has ever had making the other party's President a one-termer as a goal. Nobody ever said anything like that before!

Does anybody remember how it was the DNC's "plan" to make GWB's Guard service an issue? So much so that See B.S. News went and actually made up a story about it?

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/001093.php

The DNC chair told the media yesterday that the party would be making a big campaign issue of Bush�s disappearance during his National Guard service in 1972-73.
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Anyway, working with Kerry to make GWB a one-term President... It was reality. There are people who believe that the policies of the Democratic party are disastrous to us at this point in time and they will work to make Obama a one term President, just as those who thought GWB was disastrous worked to make him a one-term President. And those who worked to defeat Clinton, and those who worked with Clinton to defeat Bush, and those who worked with Mondale against Reagan, and so on back...
 
Damocles said:
First I will say that the TEA Party is a movement of individuals, not a political party itself. Then I will attempt to answer your question based on what a majority of those you call 'the TP' have done.

I think they have done what they can that is agreeable to their political ideology, economic theory, and the fact that they are a minority of only one of the parities in the Congress. Now, are you going to answer mine? Do you believe that the Democratic party is pristine and innocent of all political posturing and partisan bickering in this debate?

It's just deliberate ignorance that allows "the left" to pretend that it's not posturing to call one side "hostage takers" in one breath and then to demand a harmony that you are unwilling to partake in...

This is the guy who told us, "We won" and basically to shut up therefore, when he first took office. Well, you won, and your policies have wrought what we now have. They've been there less than a year and already we know that whatever comes will be far different than those disastrous policies when Obama had a blank check...
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Can you defend the TP freshman congressmen spending their first entire year writing bills to defeat National RomneyCare, I fight they new was
impossible to win?

Thought the TP members may be a "minority" they were a big enough part of the majority party of the house to direct the actions of that party.
Bohner most certainly bent to their will.

You are a partisan hack if you think Obama's policies wrought what we have now.
 
Damocles said:
No, I am just less partisan than you are. I can see both sides taking up the charge. I remember what the supposedly pristine left had to say about Bush, what the right had to say about Clinton, what the left had to say about Bush... so on.

It's not that difficult to see the pattern or to read directly those goals. It is just inane to pretend that the republicans should be hoping for a second Obama term "for the sake of the nation"... It's just incredibly silly to come on to a political site and actually say that crap with a straight face. Leave that kind of idiocy for those who don't pay attention.
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No one said the republicans should be hoping for a second Obama term. You are adding theatric to strengthen your weak position.
 
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