Obama has lost his credibility with the left!

Rana said:
I think you and Superfreak protest too much, leading me to believe, you are both closet racists!
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The fact is you have proven yourself to be an ignorant, lying twit.

There is undeniably a lot of racism in this country as yet. But to claim that it is a significant factor in why people do not approve of Obama is stupidity beyond the norm for flaming dead-brained liberals.

But, speaking of racism, got a couple questions:

1: if voting against Obama primarily do to his skin color is racism, what is voting FOR obama primarily do to his skin color? (As many openly admitted doing in both the primaries when Hilary Clinton was the whitey, and the general election.)

2: Are you an actual victim of racism, or some just another liberal whining whitey trying hard to prove you are not racist by pointing out skin color in every issue?
 
Oh, an ignorant lying twit! Yes, I prove this on a daily basis!

Why would I even want to try to have a discourse with you, have a nice day and bite me!
 
LOL Calling the majority of the republican party racist because they do not like Obama is "discourse"?

Maybe calling you an ignorant lying twit was giving you too much credit.
 
Damocles said:
Almost all progressives who complained about the wars are now silent on that subject. I remember when zillions would gather to protest the same, even to the last moment of Bush's Presidency. Now... They can barely gather enough pink shirts to hold 5 signs.
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That's just BS. Every day I get email from various liberal groups asking me to call, write or email Obama to protest his decisions on their cause du jour. I agree with 90% of their criticisms and let Obama know it.

I don't know what conservatives want. On one hand they say (like you) that we can barely gather enough people to hold five signs, and on the other hand they keep pointing out polls and editorials showing how dissatisfied liberals are with the administration.

This inconsistency alone tells me conservatives don't have a clue.
 
Rana said:
Yeah, ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist in the party! I hear it all the time in discussions with people, so bury your head! It helps it go away! You can pretend it doesn't exist and we don't have a problem in this country with racism, still!
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It certainly exists here in PA. Obama was excoriated for his comment that "bitter Pennsylvanians cling to their guns and religion" but it was 100% spot on. The local TV stations frequently interviewed people from various areas during the campaign, and a disturbingly large number made racist comments, especially those from lily-white, rural areas.
 
Rana said:
Why should I give you anything when you have already made you mind up that I am a moron, fuck yea!
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So again, you have nothing to support your claim. You wouldn't be labeled a moron on this issue if you actually backed up your bullshit claim. But you can't. Which is why you now duck away and try to hide behind comments like the above.
 
cawacko said:
Yes and while at it pull out the articles from the 2008 primary talking about racist white Democrats and would they vote for Obama. Maybe it's these white racist Democrats causing Obama to lose support.
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Clearly the white Democrats only voted for Obama in the hope of seeing a black man fail. That is why they had Reid and Pelosi sabotage the black President with non-stop hyper partisan rhetoric that drove the middle of the country into thinking the black President of hope was nothing but more of the same.
 
christiefan915 said:
It certainly exists here in PA. Obama was excoriated for his comment that "bitter Pennsylvanians cling to their guns and religion" but it was 100% spot on. The local TV stations frequently interviewed people from various areas during the campaign, and a disturbingly large number made racist comments, especially those from lily-white, rural areas.
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The racists emails I receive about from friends who claim not to be racists are staggering! I asked one of them not to contact me any longer.
 
Rana said:
I think you and Superfreak also put ideas out there that have not been expressed... you read a lot in between the lines! Go back and re read the comments! I see racism from both parties and I have seen people be shocked by the racism they didn't know they had within them. Another example the neighbor who thought property values would go down because a black family moved into the neighborhood, this was a woman who would not consider herself a racists! but guess what, she is!
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bullshit again.... my problem with you was listed in the form of a direct quote from you....

Nope, I am saying there is a large majority in the Republican party that no matter what he does they will dislike him because he is black!
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Your saying that a large majority dislike him because he is black is nothing more than Democratic partisanship in the form of the race card. You are attempting to lump a 'large majority' of your opponents party in a category that is reprehensible in order to demean them.

You have not provide ONE shred of evidence to suggest such an outlandish comment is justified.
 
Superfreak said:
bullshit again.... my problem with you was listed in the form of a direct quote from you....



Your saying that a large majority dislike him because he is black is nothing more than Democratic partisanship in the form of the race card. You are attempting to lump a 'large majority' of your opponents party in a category that is reprehensible in order to demean them.

You have not provide ONE shred of evidence to suggest such an outlandish comment is justified.
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This.
 
It is my opinion SF and I come by it from observation and the comments of my friends who claim not to be racists, but when it comes to Obama, they are, also, articles that I have read that say racism has increased towards this President. There is no way to prove this, there is no poll, it is just what I have witnessed and read. I think I struck a nerve, with a few of you! Closet racists and just can't face the fact. There are many people who wish Obama to fail because he is black and you have to be a Democrat to be a Democratic partisan and I am not a Democrat.
 
Rana said:
The racists emails I receive about from friends who claim not to be racists are staggering! I asked one of them not to contact me any longer.
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I get them, too. My BFF's sister sends dozens of them to her, and then she sends them to me to check out on the various urban legend or fact-checking sites. It's incredible the lengths these people will go to just to slam Obama or liberals.

The only good part is that their lies are easily disproved.
 
christiefan915 said:
That's just BS. Every day I get email from various liberal groups asking me to call, write or email Obama to protest his decisions on their cause du jour. I agree with 90% of their criticisms and let Obama know it.

I don't know what conservatives want. On one hand they say (like you) that we can barely gather enough people to hold five signs, and on the other hand they keep pointing out polls and editorials showing how dissatisfied liberals are with the administration.

This inconsistency alone tells me conservatives don't have a clue.
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Right. You get e-mails. During the Bush Presidency thousands would gather, whole villages traveling like an anti-entourage to Crawford each time he took a breath. Now you get e-mails and we see tiny groupings on occasion protesting the same wars.

You take your own experience with e-mails and use that anecdotal evidence to say it is the same as the protests under Bush, it isn't. Not even close.

It's difficult to see past your own bias, one we share, against the wars. However, even the most partisan blinders can compare the numbers and the protests to what has passed before.

This particular "inconsistency" to actual comparable action is particularly strong amongst those who are gathering in the pink shirts on occasion. Because they still care it means everybody does. However reality shows that to be extremely optimistic. Most who were against the wars were against them because they become a personification of Bush, when he left office so did their will to protest.
 
Damocles said:
Right. You get e-mails. During the Bush Presidency thousands would gather, whole villages traveling like an anti-entourage to Crawford each time he took a breath. Now you get e-mails and we see tiny groupings on occasion protesting the same wars.

You take your own experience with e-mails and use that anecdotal evidence to say it is the same as the protests under Bush, it isn't. Not even close.

It's difficult to see past your own bias, one we share, against the wars. However, even the most partisan blinders can compare the numbers and the protests to what has passed before.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here: isn't Christie talking about liberals protesting Obama?

So wouldn't the correlary be conservatives protesting Bush?
 
Rana said:
It is my opinion SF and I come by it from observation and the comments of my friends who claim not to be racists, but when it comes to Obama, they are, also, articles that I have read that say racism has increased towards this President. There is no way to prove this, there is no poll, it is just what I have witnessed and read. I think I struck a nerve, with a few of you! Closet racists and just can't face the fact. There are many people who wish Obama to fail because he is black and you have to be a Democrat to be a Democratic partisan and I am not a Democrat.
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ROFLMAO.... so because some of your friends are racists in your opinion, you project that onto the 'large majority' of Republicans?

Well gee.... I know a few people that are Dems that are complete morons. Hence the large majority of Dems are complete morons. Wow. I like how that works.

yes, you struck a nerve. People who make unsubstantiated claims against a large segment of the population are pathetic.

Again, you like playing the race card because of your own racist feelings and thoughts. You know that you are a closet racist, so you project that onto your opponents in order to bring them down to your level.

As I stated before. Playing the race card in such a manner is pathetic. Not to mention the fact that it is an insult to those who face actual racism in their lives. Because when you falsely claim racism is a factor it diminishes the impact of when racism really IS a factor. See... boy who cried wolf
 
Rana said:
It is my opinion SF and I come by it from observation and the comments of my friends who claim not to be racists, but when it comes to Obama, they are, also, articles that I have read that say racism has increased towards this President. There is no way to prove this, there is no poll, it is just what I have witnessed and read. I think I struck a nerve, with a few of you! Closet racists and just can't face the fact. There are many people who wish Obama to fail because he is blacek and you have to be a Democrat to be a Democratic partisan and I am not a Democrat.
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So how do a few people in Alaska end up equaling a majority of Republicans? I also disagree with the technique of throwing out that a bunch of people are racist and then saying you must be otherwise you wouldn't defend yourself so hard.
 
I confess, I am prejudiced against Asian women drivers, I hate them, they suck, they drive very badly.

This is the only racism that I can honestly admit that I have, well, except against old grumpy white men who think they are persecuted!

I think this is the group you are in...
 
Superfreak said:
So again, you have nothing to support your claim. You wouldn't be labeled a moron on this issue if you actually backed up your bullshit claim. But you can't. Which is why you now duck away and try to hide behind comments like the above.
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Jesus Freepin' Cripes! She just read AN article! What the hell more you need?
 
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