He seems to be doing a much better job that the former owner of a Texas Baseball team!
Obama Getting Briefed on Afghanistan Operation
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He seems to be doing a much better job that the former owner of a Texas Baseball team!
Just as you would not be capable of overseeing and consulting in the operating room of an ongoing heart transplant operation, because you lack even a rudimental understanding of the methods and procedures,
Obama lacks the understanding of methods and procedures needed for a military operation to be successful.....
My idea of YOU being a good commander in chief and be successful in the above scenario, would be for you to keep your mouth shut and allow the doctors to makes the decisions necessary for the operation to be a success....
just as Obama should do with military decisions, keep his mouth shut and let others with military experience do what needs to be done for success....
"Obama lacks the understanding of methods and procedures needed for a military operation to be successful....."
Shocking!
Unless we elect someone who was a ranking military officer, that's the kind of Prez we'll have. It's not the President's job to formulate military procedures & strategies. It would be strange if it was.
Shocking!
Unless we elect someone who was a ranking military officer, that's the kind of Prez we'll have. It's not the President's job to formulate military procedures & strategies. It would be strange if it was.
Damocles, we were defeated in Iraq the moment Bush and his sycophants lied us into invading.
There was no justification in invading, and western armies have, or should have learned, from two centuries of history that occupying an Arab land with no moral or military justification is a fool's errand.
Military victories are judged by their political outcomes. Not by some tactical metric like reductions in deaths.
The United states finally saw the writing on the wall, and decided to throw in our lot with the side that was going to win the Iraq Civil war no matter what we did. It was a foregone conclusion that the Shia were going to win, whether we had the Splurge or not. Putting our money and manpower, in large measure, behind the Shia was just a fig leaf to keep our relevance and a modicum of influence on Iraq.
The final result was predictable. At least to those who are well informed and opposed the war from the beginning. A shia-dominated government, which is corrupt and nominally theocratic; one that in the long run will never be a strong or reliable ally of the United States. One which has engaged in ethnic cleansing and displaced millions of sunni.
The Shia used us. And since we couldn't admit the war was a fools errand and a defeat from the beginning, we threw our money behind them in a face-saving attempt to have influence and relevance on an outcome that was predictable no matter what we did.
PS, I agree that Obama, like any US president, is going to play politics. Now that he is responsible for Bush's blunder (aka, Iraq) he's going to put lipstick on a pig and claim he made the best out of a fucked up situation.
The reality is, I don't read the talking points from the Bush/Palin/Obama websites. Iraq, as a political outcome, was a defeat for the united states, and arguably, the most massive waste of blood and treasure in our history.
Obama was still right, in 2003. Invading Iraq was something only idiots would contemplate doing. If Al Gore were prez in 2003, this shit wouldn't have happened. In that sense, anyone who pulled the lever for Bush in 2000 has to answer for this clusterfuck.
The reality is, I don't read the talking points from the Bush/Palin/Obama websites. Iraq, as a political outcome, was a defeat for the united states, and arguably, the most massive waste of blood and treasure in our history.
Obama was still right, in 2003. Invading Iraq was something only idiots would contemplate doing. If Al Gore were prez in 2003, this shit wouldn't have happened. In that sense, anyone who pulled the lever for Bush in 2000 has to answer for this clusterfuck.
Bullshit and more bullshit...
Military victories are judged by dead bodies, battles won, and which side gives up first....
The Iraqi War was a victory....Enemy troops defeated and overcome in battle,
Saddam ousted, arrested, and hanged for his crimes against his subjects,
fear of WMD being developed and used no longer any concern....
The political outcome for that country is in the hands of its citizens as it should be, and not in the hands of a conquering army....or its rulers forcing their values down the throats of the civilians of that country.
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is that why we babysat them with an interim government and a conquering army and supervised the writing of a constitution and the holding of elections?
The problem is the lipstick is in a particular shade of Bush and it is easy to see, even the colorblind can see that it is the shade of Bush...
I also believe that if McCain had beaten Bush in the Primaries we would never have entered Iraq, and Gore would still not be President.
babysat them?----did you expect us to let anarchy rule in the country, O Foolish One....
Thats right....its our duty to see that the populace gets to choose their fate with free elections without interference....
As for supervising the writing of their constitution....???Prove it....just because one or two liberal and/or anti-American Islamic nuts make the claim doesn't make it so....though I have no doubt we offered to help and will assist them if and when we're asked...
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maineman
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"The political outcome for that country is in the hands of its citizens"
your words, not mine