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I don't know, but the slave industry wouldn't have been possible without black African slave traders.

Is it important to you that whites are the only guilty party?

Not at all. Why are you moving the goalposts?

You tried to elevate the civil war. I'm just bringing it back to reality. We were fighting just as you claimed Native Americans were.

There is no justification for the genocide we committed. Your entire premise of "this would have happened anyway" or "they were killing each other regardless" is deeply embarrassing, and inane.
 
Not at all. Why are you moving the goalposts?

You tried to elevate the civil war. I'm just bringing it back to reality. We were fighting just as you claimed Native Americans were.

There is no justification for the genocide we committed. Your entire premise of "this would have happened anyway" or "they were killing each other regardless" is deeply embarrassing, and inane.

Maybe you can point out where I said it was justified.
 
Simple. Man has been killing and slaughtering man forever. Trying to single out one episode of man killing man and making a statement of earthly historical significance is silly. No it is stupid and you cannot fix stupid.

It's importance to them is that it props up the historically bankrupt notion that white Europeans were a special case of evil.
 
you have a cold dark heart
I have bought a trailer for an illegal to get his lawn business going. My wife spent weeks working with another illegal getting her kids in school. We bought a fucking house for another illegal at church whose husband left her with 6 kids and ran off with a 16 year old. What in the fuck have you done?
 
Um....pretty much everywhere on this thread?

What else have you done EXCEPT for try to justify it?

Unreal.

Ok, I take it all back. The Native Americans weren't killing each other long before we got here. And had we left the whole continent to them, today they'd be a wonderful, peaceful culture.

And we not only committed genocide on them, we absolutely suck.

That better?
 
Ok, I take it all back. The Native Americans weren't killing each other long before we got here. And had we left the whole continent to them, today they'd be a wonderful, peaceful culture.

And we not only committed genocide on them, we absolutely suck.

That better?

This was an easy thread for a rational individual, Darth. A softball. You could either not respond, or just chime in w/ a "Yeah, it's a bummer how this country started, and that this happened to Native Americans." There was nothing needed about having any guilt for it, or thinking "we suck."

But, no - you showed some real true colors there. "They were killing each other, anyway." Nice stuff.
 
This was an easy thread for a rational individual, Darth. A softball. You could either not respond, or just chime in w/ a "Yeah, it's a bummer how this country started, and that this happened to Native Americans." There was nothing needed about having any guilt for it, or thinking "we suck."

But, no - you showed some real true colors there. "They were killing each other, anyway." Nice stuff.

Omg, they WERE killing each other. And if asserting the obvious [sooner or later a more advanced culture would have done what we did] is me showing my 'true colors', then color me a realist.
 
Omg, they WERE killing each other. And if asserting the obvious [sooner or later a more advanced culture would have done what we did] is me showing my 'true colors', then color me a realist.

As has been pointed out, we were killing each other at one point, too. A lot of people were around the world, for many years.

I mean, this is just sick. You are a very disturbed person.
 
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