No more Kneeling for NFL

In a democratic republic, Ev...the person doing the protesting decides what is the right place and the right time. In dictatorships...others decide the right time and right place. Hell...in Mao's Chiina...some protesting was allowed...IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. Hitler's Germany and Hussein's Iraq probably had "right time and right place" for stuff. Give up on this. Your side is a clear loser...to anyone who truly understands what this nation is about. By the way...to George Wallace...protesting during the 1960's in Alabama was the wrong time and the wrong place. C'mon. Show some common sense...and abandon the argument from your side.

The NFL makes the decisions about what constitutes acceptable player behavior. Not the government.

That's where your logic falls apart.
 
Just for my information, do you agree with this comment from trump: "You have to stand proudly for the National Anthem or you shouldn't be playing. You shouldn't be there. Maybe you shouldn't be in the country," Trump said."

You got to remember those comments are for his base Team America "Fuck Yea!" supporters who, more than likely, don't have that first clue to what freedom actually means.

I think the whole thing is stupid. The NFL owners hate Trump. Purposefully kept him out of NFL ownership cause they didn't want to deal with the prima donna. Now that he's President their scared to death they may lose revenue or anti-trust status. Neither of which appear to be likely.

So now the NFL in able to save face after Trump publicly whipped them over this are going the opposite direct. They're treating their professional athletes like third graders. It's highly unlikely that the NFLPA will permit this and what will happen is the NFL will just do what they did before 2009 (yes...this one is actually Obama's fault) when all teams stayed in the locker room prior to kick off. Once they accepted money for the DoD to put on patriotic shows before games and at half time they opened the door to this sort of political hackery. In retrospect I'm pretty sure they wish they hadn't of taken a dime from the DoD.
 
Once they accepted money for the DoD to put on patriotic shows before games and at half time they opened the door to this sort of political hackery. In retrospect I'm pretty sure they wish they hadn't of taken a dime from the DoD.

Is it your contention that the National Anthem wasn't played prior to that?
 
That business about teaching gays to be straight is one of the most disgusting things I ever heard.

That has a lot to do with the thread topic. :rolleyes:

While we're exploring tangents, tell me; is Hillary a proven liar?

Don't make me drag it out of you, because you know what you think of that.
 
I wouldn't do that, because it'd be wrong.

You, on the other hand, are fair game.

We both know you're already answered the question.

Do I have to drag it out of you again? Remember what you said about Pompeo.

Is Hillary a proven liar?

Explain to me what Pompeo's remarks about Russian meddling have to do with Hillary. I never called Pompeo a liar, I said he was an idiot. But further research shows he did lie. He misrepresented the Russian involvement before he made this 180. Plus, he's a hawk who supports torture.
 
He is free to speak his mind, just as you are. You're hysterical if you really think he's a dictator, or even could be.

Now, is Hillary a proven liar?

Answer, Christiecrite. Don't make me drag it out you you. :rofl2:

trump would love to have absolute power. You're being disingenuous in not acknowledging that.
 
Lets ask again, Einstein, how is kneeling hurting the NFL?

Viewership and attendance are both down.

"Nearly one-third (32 percent) of adults say they're less likely to watch NFL game telecasts because of the Kaepernick-led player protests against racial injustice, according to Rasmussen's telephone/online survey of 1,000 American adults conducted Oct. 2-3. Only 13 percent said they were more likely to watch an NFL game because of continuing protests by Kaepernick and supporters...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2016/10/05/confirmed-nfl-losing-millions-of-tv-viewers-because-of-national-anthem-protests/#4c99e12c226c

Operators of two of the largest U.S. ticket marketplaces say they are seeing declines in orders for NFL games amid festering controversy over the national anthem.

NFL ticket sales at TickPick slumped 17.9 percent this week compared with the prior week, their steepest decline since 2014, while sales at TicketCity plunged 31 percent. For pro football games in September, ticket sales at TicketCity are down 16 percent from a year ago.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nfl-national-anthem-protest-denting-ticket-sales/

Could be other factors, I suppose.

Why don't you tell the forum of your great expertise regarding the National Anthem gaian?

They are all public events, so why is the anthem only played at professional sporting venues?
 
We can and will decide just when and where to protest without any of your help.
I am sure you wouldn't have approved MLK protesting in Selma Alabama for one.

Frank and I are from different sides of the aisle, but we do share some values. The exchange between frank and me that you jumped into won't make much sense to you, since it wasn't directed towards you. Frank sees further outside of the rigid dogma that you are limited to, so I communicate differently with him than I do with you.
 
Viewership and attendance are both down.

"Nearly one-third (32 percent) of adults say they're less likely to watch NFL game telecasts because of the Kaepernick-led player protests against racial injustice, according to Rasmussen's telephone/online survey of 1,000 American adults conducted Oct. 2-3. Only 13 percent said they were more likely to watch an NFL game because of continuing protests by Kaepernick and supporters...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2016/10/05/confirmed-nfl-losing-millions-of-tv-viewers-because-of-national-anthem-protests/#4c99e12c226c

Operators of two of the largest U.S. ticket marketplaces say they are seeing declines in orders for NFL games amid festering controversy over the national anthem.

NFL ticket sales at TickPick slumped 17.9 percent this week compared with the prior week, their steepest decline since 2014, while sales at TicketCity plunged 31 percent. For pro football games in September, ticket sales at TicketCity are down 16 percent from a year ago.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nfl-national-anthem-protest-denting-ticket-sales/

Could be other factors, I suppose.

Why don't you tell the forum of your great expertise regarding the National Anthem gaian?

I was going to post some stuff for him, but it is like explaining it to a dog. He will just post counter propaganda and derail everything into a never ending tit for tat debate that deserves it's own thread.
 
That has a lot to do with the thread topic. :rolleyes:

While we're exploring tangents, tell me; is Hillary a proven liar?

Don't make me drag it out of you, because you know what you think of that.

You can try to drag it but may I remind you of how little success you'll have in doing so? :)
 
I was going to post some stuff for him, but it is like explaining it to a dog. He will just post counter propaganda and derail everything into a never ending tit for tat debate that deserves it's own thread.

"Him's" allegedly a "her".
 
IMO it's egregiously cruel to give conflicted people false hope that his bogus therapy can change their sexuality.

I agree, but Bachmann's husband is a freeloading cockroach.. They were getting thousands per month for the 23 foster kids they took in.. Its like $5,000 a month per child in their state.
 
Did he tell you that himself, or is that just a feeling you have?

Now, is Hillary a proven liar?

Answer, Christiecrite. Don't make me drag it out of you.

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Explain to me what Pompeo's remarks about Russian meddling have to do with Hillary. I never called Pompeo a liar, I said he was an idiot.

You called him "an idiot" based on your claim that answers "had to be dragged out of" him.

Yet you have that same issue, clearly.

Hillary is relevant only because I can't drag the answer to that question out of you. So that makes you no better than Pompeo, who you called 'an idiot" because you think somebody had to drag an answer out of him..

Now, pretend you don't have a double standard. One set of rules for Mike Pompeo, and another for Christiecrite.
 
Not since I learned in middle school that these displays were authoritarian in nature. Why don't you do some research on which countries do this?

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Southington, Connecticut school children pledge their allegiance to the flag, in May 1942.
I'm sorry you got duped so early in your life....
 
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