No more Kneeling for NFL

[christiefan915]

Actually baseball is considered the number one past time but the NFL is the number one sport right now. Ultimately it's not good for business and once Trump got involved, they had to deal with it. Not saying this is the right way but they had to do something

They could have just ignored everything. People have short memories.

 

[Evmetro]

That's a pretty low bar you set.

The other thing I enjoy is reading all the lefty chatter that goes on after they lose. Lefties have a hard time seeing when they have lost.

 

[Legion]

People have short memories.

I don't.

 

[cawacko]

They could have just ignored everything. People have short memories.

This wasn't going away and ratings are hurting. And if you believe them they didn't want to be used as midterm rhetoric. They made a business decision. Can definitely be debated if it was the right one but players weren't going to stop kneeling

 

[Legion]

That's a pretty low bar you set.

Sour grapes? I seem to recall libs were ecstatic when the kneelers were "sticking it to Trump".

 

[Controlled Opposition]

you are a liar

Anecdote Alert!

I have been a professional investigator (in various capacities) for most of my adult life. I can't tell you how many veterans inflate their military experience.

My father was the "commander" of a small town VFW organization. On a few occasions, he asked me to investigate, informally, the claims of members of his local organization.

One was an Army cook. Another poured concrete and built and maintained runways. The third was a file clerk.

 

[Legion]

I have been a professional investigator (in various capacities) for most of my adult life. I can't tell you how many veterans inflate their military experience. My father was the "commander" of a small town VFW organization. On a few occasions, he asked me to investigate, informally, the claims of members of his local organization. One was an Army cook. Another poured concrete and built and maintained runways. The third was a file clerk.

Anecdote Alert!

 

[Rat Robbersson]

Did you watch the video that he posted for you?

no

 

[christiefan915]

The first amendment is about government not talking away your right to speech. It doesn't say your employer can't do that. Most of us don't work in jobs where millions are watching of course but NFL players are free to work elsewhere if they don't like the rule.

Your employer can take away your right to speech if it involves something like trashing the company, for instance. But ordering you to do something like this is, IMO, beyond the pale. What next, they going to tell you how to vote?

 

[Controlled Opposition]

Additional note: Everyone who serves in the military is "decorated."

 

[Rat Robbersson]

This wasn't going away and ratings are hurting. And if you believe them they didn't want to be used as midterm rhetoric. They made a business decision. Can definitely be debated if it was the right one but players weren't going to stop kneeling

New segregated leagues must be formed. One white, one people of color. At the end of the year they would play each other in the Racial Bowl. Which one would you bet on?

 

[christiefan915]

It isn't really that uncommon for people to have to conform to certain standards while on the job. Many places require uniforms, so the people on the job do not have the freedom to wear their own choice of clothing during the time they are on the job. Many places prohibit foul language while at work. The freedom still exists, just not at work. There is always the freedom to work somewhere else...

^ Those standards have nothing to do with government. This is a private organization telling people how they have to act toward a symbol.

 

[Rat Robbersson]

Your employer can take away your right to speech if it involves something like trashing the company, for instance. But ordering you to do something like this is, IMO, beyond the pale. What next, they going to tell you how to vote?

They already do that by stealth.

 

[cawacko]

Your employer can take away your right to speech if it involves something like trashing the company, for instance. But ordering you to do something like this is, IMO, beyond the pale. What next, they going to tell you how to vote?

No one can ever tell you how to vote unless they follow you into the booth which I believe is illegal. Whether one agrees with the protests or not it has hurt the NFL business wise. You can argue the NFL should be more socially active but a lot of businesses aren't going to put up with employees that cost the business money. That's what has happened here.

 

[Evmetro]

Your employer can take away your right to speech if it involves something like trashing the company, for instance.

Trashing the country is uglier than trashing a company.

Btw, This kneeling thing is over now, your side lost like Hillary lost her campaign.

 

[Rat Robbersson]

^ Those standards have nothing to do with government. This is a private organization telling people how they have to act toward a symbol.

That's high tech slavery. A rose is still a rose whatever you call it.

 

[Rat Robbersson]

Trashing the country is uglier than trashing a company.

Btw, This kneeling thing is over now, your side lost like Hillary lost her campaign.

It's too early to do a victory lap. The game is still on. The fat lady hasn't sung yet, fool.

 

[christiefan915]

I don't.

'Cause you're a robot.

 

[christiefan915]

Sour grapes? I seem to recall libs were ecstatic when the kneelers were "sticking it to Trump".

Are you saying that not kneeling at a football game is "making America great again"?

 

[Rat Robbersson]

Trashing the country is uglier than trashing a company.

Btw, This kneeling thing is over now, your side lost like Hillary lost her campaign.

Why is trump trashing the federal law enforcement agencies? What is he afraid of? Rudy recently ansered that question by saying, in effect, that trump is guilty and won't testify about it because he is a pathological liar. ​1984