NFL Going to Hell

Oneuli said:
The NFL is in a tough position, in that they know that QBs are their biggest attraction, and so they don't want to lose one for the season as a result of a preseason game. Maybe the way to go would be to have special rules for the preseason games -- like starters only play for the first half and it's two-hand-touch, with full contact reserved for the guys trying to make the roster in the second half. Then the league could sell tickets to the game but wouldn't need to worry about losing stars in games that don't actually count.
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The NFL forces season tickets holders to buy pre-season tickets at full price which is pretty much a joke but any decision will ultimately come down to money (obviously). But yeah, if they could find a way to play the game, generate the same revenue and not have any stars hurt would be ideal from the league's perspective like what you propose.
 
Nordberg said:
years ago, the NFL bragged about their generous retirement . It started at age 65. Turned out that almost nobody was living to collect. Now they have to pay off players suffering from brain damage. They are fighting them from collecting that too.
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And that's one of the many reasons I am done with the NFL. I just can't justify giving them the ratings given all the terrible shit associated with the NFL. But it really goes to colleges and high schools too...they exploit these kids for financial gain, and barely share any of it with the players. The whole franchise of football stinks. Besides, basketball is way more exciting -did you see the NBA playoffs this year? OFF. THE. HOOK. Crazy entertaining and a blast to watch.
 
cawacko said:
For years I supported cities subsidizing sports stadiums because I was a sports fan. And not that my opinion matters but I've sort of moved on the issue as I've watch the Giants and Warriors build private stadiums and thought why should cities subsidize these wealthy owners. At the end of the day it's really up to the each city and their voters. If they want to fund a stadium that's democracy in action and I don't have a problem with it.
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What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?
 
Fentoine Lum said:
What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?
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Are you saying most people don't want sports stadiums publically funded in their cities and they are done against their will?
 
cawacko said:
I avoided the question how?
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Rather simply by responding to - "What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?"


With - "Are you saying most people don't want sports stadiums publically funded in their cities and they are done against their will?"
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Rather simply by responding to - "What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?"


With - "Are you saying most people don't want sports stadiums publically funded in their cities and they are done against their will?"
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Considering what you asked has nothing to do with the NFL or publicly funded stadiums and was nothing other than a virtue signal to Rana how about you explain your point if you think you were making one off something I said.
 
cawacko said:
Considering what you asked has nothing to do with the NFL or publicly funded stadiums and was nothing other than a virtue signal to Rana how about you explain your point if you think you were making one off something I said.
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So now I have to walk you through the thread and remind you what you said?
 
Fentoine Lum said:
So now I have to walk you through the thread and remind you what you said?
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If it's that important for you then yes. I enjoy having conversations and discussions with people on this board but I'm not wasting time with gotcha attempts. If you think my positions are inconsistent or hypocritical then say so. Don't ask some arbitrary question.
 
cawacko said:
If it's that important for you then yes. I enjoy having conversations and discussions with people on this board but I'm not wasting time with gotcha attempts. If you think my positions are inconsistent or hypocritical then say so. Don't ask some arbitrary question.
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It was so much work:

For years I supported cities subsidizing sports stadiums because I was a sports fan. And not that my opinion matters but I've sort of moved on the issue as I've watch the Giants and Warriors build private stadiums and thought why should cities subsidize these wealthy owners. At the end of the day it's really up to the each city and their voters. If they want to fund a stadium that's democracy in action and I don't have a problem with it.


What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?
 
Fentoine Lum said:
It was so much work:

For years I supported cities subsidizing sports stadiums because I was a sports fan. And not that my opinion matters but I've sort of moved on the issue as I've watch the Giants and Warriors build private stadiums and thought why should cities subsidize these wealthy owners. At the end of the day it's really up to the each city and their voters. If they want to fund a stadium that's democracy in action and I don't have a problem with it.


What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?
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What does your question have to do with my comment?
 
cawacko said:
LOL, you do that guy. Congrats you got Rana already. Nice virtue signal
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Yeah I don't know what you and Rana have going on, or anything about some "virtue signal".

You posted:

For years I supported cities subsidizing sports stadiums because I was a sports fan. And not that my opinion matters but I've sort of moved on the issue as I've watch the Giants and Warriors build private stadiums and thought why should cities subsidize these wealthy owners. At the end of the day it's really up to the each city and their voters. If they want to fund a stadium that's democracy in action and I don't have a problem with it.


To which I responded"

What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?

That's it, the end. If you can't figure out the question we can leave it at that.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Yeah I don't know what you and Rana have going on, or anything about some "virtue signal".

You posted:

For years I supported cities subsidizing sports stadiums because I was a sports fan. And not that my opinion matters but I've sort of moved on the issue as I've watch the Giants and Warriors build private stadiums and thought why should cities subsidize these wealthy owners. At the end of the day it's really up to the each city and their voters. If they want to fund a stadium that's democracy in action and I don't have a problem with it.


To which I responded"

What is it when a majority of americans support single payer healthcare and it gets cockblocked by concentrated corporate wealth and power?

That's it, the end. If you can't figure out the question we can leave it at that.
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The answer is constitutional limits.
 
Threedee said:
The answer is constitutional limits.
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Bullshit, the answer is we subsidize the aristocracy to the detriment of society as a whole, no one has any issues with socialism in america, the pissing match is over where it goes.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense the the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Bullshit, the answer is we subsidize the aristocracy to the detriment of society as a whole, no one has any issues with socialism in america, the pissing match is over where it goes.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense the the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses
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Everyone who doesn't want to live like Venezuelans opposes socialism in America. I know you are incapable of distinguishing between successful ideologies from unsuccessful ones, so, this is probably a surprise to you.
 
cawacko said:
This becomes a cultural thing but you are right, for many kids their dreams are the NFL or bust. And as you stated the average career is about three years, if you are one of the lucky 1% to make it. Hey making $500K to $1M in your early 20's has you ahead of the game economically but it's not setting you up for life. I've worked with a handful of guys who played in the league but now have regular careers like everyone else. Even fewer make enough to retire off of. And as mentioned the damage to the body and brain is permanent.

It's a rough sport/business no question.
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Tom Brady has made millions is set for life!NFL is a great career,can retire at 30.Sure there are a few rotten apples that blow their money on drugs and women!
 
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