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Onceler said:
C'mon, Annie. That is a dishonest argument.

I could have told you we'd hit 10% unemployment, no matter who took office & what policies they used. No one was about to turn the rate of firing on a dime.

The point is that the economy has turned; we have gone from shedding jobs on a large scale, to seeing the first signs that companies are hiring again. That is my only point. It is ignorant to suggest that we are in a worse place today than we were in the beginning of 2009.
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Dont make them cry with the improving economy... They were hoping so badly it would get worse.
 
Onceler said:
C'mon, Annie. That is a dishonest argument.

I could have told you we'd hit 10% unemployment, no matter who took office & what policies they used. No one was about to turn the rate of firing on a dime.

The point is that the economy has turned; we have gone from shedding jobs on a large scale, to seeing the first signs that companies are hiring again. That is my only point. It is ignorant to suggest that we are in a worse place today than we were in the beginning of 2009.
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By Chris Isidore, senior writer July 14, 2010: 2:25 PM ET


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Federal Reserve has become more pessimistic about the economy.

The Fed's latest forecasts, which were included in the minutes of of the central bank's June 23 meeting released Wednesday, is the latest sign of growing concern that the recovery is losing steam.

This means that the recovery is done and now it's the economy stupid. No more tricks and razzle-dazzle economics.
 
Ice Dancer said:
By Chris Isidore, senior writer July 14, 2010: 2:25 PM ET


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Federal Reserve has become more pessimistic about the economy.

The Fed's latest forecasts, which were included in the minutes of of the central bank's June 23 meeting released Wednesday, is the latest sign of growing concern that the recovery is losing steam.

This means that the recovery is done and now it's the economy stupid. No more tricks and razzle-dazzle economics.
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LOL

Try to hide your excitement.

That doesn't mean the recovery is "done." Not by a long shot, as much as your wishful thinking tries to will it that way.
 
I continue to be amazed at you libtards. If this economy were during a GOP administration you'd be saying how bad it is.
 
Onceler said:
LOL

Try to hide your excitement.

That doesn't mean the recovery is "done." Not by a long shot, as much as your wishful thinking tries to will it that way.
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Reality and facts are not wishful thinking...wishful thinking is that the worst is behind us...I wish that, I just know it ain't what the facts show.
 
Ice Dancer said:
You're right there isn't 1 fact there are several and when taken together indicate it's over...and it was pathetic as recoveries go at that.
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The article you posted doesn't even come close to stating that.

It must be hard to have a stake in the economy getting worse. I'm glad I don't think that way.
 
Onceler said:
The article you posted doesn't even come close to stating that.

It must be hard to have a stake in the economy getting worse. I'm glad I don't think that way.
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OK Mr. seemingly lip-locked to fantasy! How about how experts from abroad view things???

"Growth fears have in particular been centered on the U.S. in the wake of a run of disappointing data," said Mitul Kotecha, an analyst at Credit Agricole.

While some investors may be quietly buying back into the market after heavy losses last week, overall sentiment is cautious.

Besides the weak jobs data, U.S. indicators have recently shown a drop in home sales, a fall in consumer confidence and a slide in manufacturing activity. That spooked investors already fretting over the European debt crisis and its impact on major trading partners like the U.S. and in Asia.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Jesus God 3D. You ranked the most inept President in US history as #7? As one of our best? The guy who was so corrupt that he sat around playing poker while his buddies emptied the treasury? Who's only significant positive accomplishment was to die in office? Where the hell do you come up with this shit? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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I've still never heard a single reason for why Harding should be considered either inept or bad. How does an inept president preside over a recovery? How does an inept president preside over a major economic boom? How does he manage to be one of the few major contributors to a peacetime America? How does virtually nothing go wrong under an inept president save for Teapot Dome (a relatively mild scandal as presidential scandals go) and the prosecution of Interior Secretary Albert Fall?
 
Onceler said:
LOL

As he ignores the rest of the post.

Please. It's not even disputable. This is not a "worse" place than the beginning of 2009.
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of course it is.....have you even looked at it?.....for example, what has happened to our national debt since January, 2009......and what do we have to show for it.......unemployment is still at the same rate, all the jobs added were public sector jobs and the states and cities don't have the money to fund them for a second year, so we will end up losing ALL of the jobs added in 2009.....

please, tell me ONE thing better than it was in 2009......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the only dishonesty here is pretending things are better since Obama took office....I can't believe your holding up that charade.....
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Actually, the economy IS better than it was when Obama took office. The simple fact that the banking sector is not on the verge of complete implosion is why.

Yes, unemployment is worse and you can also point to several other events that COULD potentially send us back into a downward spiral. I am one that believes at least one of the shoes will drop and send us back down. I think we will once again get a 'lets spend money' solution from the idiots in DC as a response to the next downturn without regard to HOW the money is being spent.

I understand your views and agree that we are in no way even close to being out of the woods and also agree that several indicators are worse today than in February 2009. But when doing a relative strength analysis of the economy THEN vs. NOW.... we are better off than we were.

In order for today to be 'worse/same': The markets would have to drop 35% to knock us back down to where we were. The financial sector would have to once again be on the verge of imploding. Jobs would have to be lost at a pace of 750k per month.
 
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