NEW BOMBSHELL: Jared Kushner and Mike Flynn met with the Russians in December

iewitness said:
all of these fake news "bombshells" have become quite boring. the thrill is gone. these fake news "bombshells" have become more like sparklers or charcoal snakes; entertaining for small children and simpleminded adults.
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^Another "fake news" Trumptard. Jesus, there are a lot of you morons out there!
 
christiefan915 said:
The trump people haven't been in contact with anybody as much as with Russia. Sure Abe met with him AFTER he was inaugurated. That's normal. Nobody was meeting with the Japanese ambassador back in August or September, though.

If you have info that the trumpists met envoys from other countries before the election, please share.
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I really don't understand your slant here. As has been noted, it is not improper and in fact common, what is your problem? Why aren't you concerned about McCaskill meeting with Russia? I don't know who else his team met with.

What I don't get is, nothing improper is alleged, it is common, so why is this a bombshell?
 
christiefan915 said:
Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and now a senior adviser, also participated in the meeting at Trump Tower with Flynn and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador. But among Trump’s inner circle, it is Flynn who appears to have been the main interlocutor with the Russian envoy — the two were in contact during the campaign and the transition, Kislyak and current and former U.S. officials have said.

But the extent and frequency of their contacts remains unclear, and the disclosure of the meeting at Trump Tower adds to the emerging picture of how the relationship between Trump’s incoming team and Moscow was evolving to include some of the president-elect’s most trusted advisers.

It is common and not improper for transition officials to meet with foreign officials. But all meetings between Trump associates and Russians are now significant as the FBI investigates Russian interference in the U.S. election and whether anyone close to Trump’s campaign was involved.

The meeting in December came just as the Obama White House was preparing to sanction Russia and publicly make its case that Moscow had interfered with the 2016 election.

https://www.boston.com/news/politic...th-russian-envoy-in-december-white-house-says
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Did you read that part Christie?
 
Yaya said:
Did you read that part Christie?
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Did you read this part yurtikins? "But all meetings between Trump associates and Russians are now significant as the FBI investigates Russian interference in the U.S. election and whether anyone close to Trump’s campaign was involved."
 
christiefan915 said:
Before the inauguration. As Obama said "there's only one president until January 20."
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I gave you what you asked for and this is how you respond? He met with others before the inauguration, you didn't think he did, but his team sure as heck did, but of course that doesn't concern you. That is intellectual dishonesty.

And there is this: Trump's transition team have released a list of 29 foreign leaders that it said have spoken to the President-elect and vice president-elect
 
christiefan915 said:
Did you read this part yurtikins? "But all meetings between Trump associates and Russians are now significant as the FBI investigates Russian interference in the U.S. election and whether anyone close to Trump’s campaign was involved."
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Of course I did. But the point remains, it was no improper and is common. You are making a big deal out of nothing. And of course you have no problem with him meeting anyone else, just the big bad skeeery Russians.

Yawn.
 
christiefan915 said:
People better get used to the idea that anyone in trump's team who was in contact with Russia is going to be under suspicion. Whether you want to believe it or not, Russia meddled in our business just like they've been meddling in other governments all over Europe.
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we know that christie -we know about the Russian hacking of the DNC and Podesta.
I don't think it's anything big -in fact I still question that because all the "conclusions" are based solely on the malware used.
The malware is commonly used by east European hackers - and the disconnect I see at least is the jump to the conclusion it was by Russian state actors

anyways...there hasn't been a scintilla of evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians-
which is what the press desperately wants to happen
 
christiefan915 said:
Funny how none of these people met the Guatemalan ambassador, or the Irish ambassador.

And why does Jared Kushner get involved, he has no formal government position even under trump, let alone before trump was inaugurated.
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He was trying to make arrangements for some Russian prostitutes who specialize in giving golden showers to fat old perverts.
 
christiefan915 said:
The weirdness that of all the countries the US deals with and of all the countries we can improve relations with, the trumpists are concentrating their attentions on Russia. And they didn't even wait for the inauguration to start. Why haven't they reached out to Angela Merkel, for example?

And you are an apologist. You've said many times that you've criticized trump for one thing or another, yet you pounce on the rest of us who do. Just like you did in this post.
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because US/German relations are stable-
in fact Sec of Defense Mattis just did a NATO meeting where he told NATO we value the alliance.

It's Russian/US/NATO relations that are in a crisis,and it's those relations that need attention.
 
anatta said:
we know that christie -we know about the Russian hacking of the DNC and Podesta.
I don't think it's anything big -in fact I still question that because all the "conclusions" are based solely on the malware used.
The malware is commonly used by east European hackers - and the disconnect I see at least is the jump to the conclusion it was by Russian state actors

anyways...there hasn't been a scintilla of evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians-
which is what the press desperately wants to happen
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You have no idea what evidence the FBI has, rube.
 
christiefan915 said:
It gets better and better...

The New York Times said on Thursday afternoon that Pres. Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and disgraced former National Security Adviser Gen. Mike Flynn met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December between Trump’s election and his inauguration.

The White House made the stunning admission less than an hour after Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions recused himself from investigations of Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/new...mike-flynn-met-with-the-russians-in-december/
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But, but, didn't Trump say no one had?
 
anatta said:
we know that christie -we know about the Russian hacking of the DNC and Podesta.
I don't think it's anything big -in fact I still question that because all the "conclusions" are based solely on the malware used.
The malware is commonly used by east European hackers - and the disconnect I see at least is the jump to the conclusion it was by Russian state actors

anyways...there hasn't been a scintilla of evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians-
which is what the press desperately wants to happen
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You seem to be contemptuous of the IC findings, but we know Russia's been meddling in elections all over Europe for years, it's not just the US. I don't think it's helpful to believe all these other countries are lying.

"Russia's alleged use of computer hacking to interfere with the U.S. presidential election fits a pattern of similar incidents across Europe for at least a decade.

Cyberattacks in Ukraine, Bulgaria, Estonia, Germany, France and Austria that investigators attributed to suspected Russian hackers appeared aimed at influencing election results, sowing discord and undermining faith in public institutions that included government agencies, the media and elected officials. Those investigations bolster U.S. intelligence findings of Russian meddling to help elect Donald Trump, a conclusion the president-elect has disputed — although he conceded Friday after a private intelligence briefing that Russia was among the possible hacking culprits.

“They’ve been very good at using the West’s weaknesses against itself, the open Internet to hack, the free media to sow discord, and to cause people to question the underpinnings of the systems under which they live,” said Hannah Thoburn, a research fellow at the Hudson Institute, a Washington think tank.

U.S. National Intelligence Director James Clapper told a Senate committee Thursday that Russian intelligence hackers, masquerading as third parties, have conducted attacks abroad that targeted critical infrastructure networks. “Russia also has used cyber tactics and techniques to seek to influence public opinion across Europe and Eurasia,” Clapper said.

More specifics at the link. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ia-engineered-election-hacks-europe/96216556/
 
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