NATO is a Cold War Relic

Quetzalcoatl said:
Unlikely. Had we maintained our neutrality the Kaiser would have likely prevailed in 1918, which means no treaty of Versailles, which means no national anger and resentment that would lead to the rise of Hitler. It also means the Ottoman Empire would have survived, at least slightly longer. So our current position in the middle east wouldn't be what it is either.
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We'll never know, because DEMOCRAT Wilson broke his promise.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
And had we not been involved in either war would have never come to our shores?
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The Allies would have prevailed in 1919, without the US contingent. Their presence was more of a morale booster than anything else. Both sides had been bled white by 1918, the Germans were starving. Even the Michael Offensive ran out of steam very quickly due to lack of crack storm troops and extended supply lines. The Allies had a plan for a massive mechanised advance in 1919 which would have finally have brought Germany to its knees.
 
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Havana Moon said:
I met a really nice guy from Libya last week. He has lived in England for 27 years but still has family in Benghazi. He said that law and order has been reestablished in Tripoli and is getting there in Benghazi. He hated Ghaddafi by the way and is a big supporter of Hafter. He also thinks that Libya will end up as two autonomous regions centered around Tripoli and Benghazi, the main sticking point will be how the oil revenues are divided up.
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Oil revenues are already split 50-50.. Tripoli has sporadic militia/thug outbreaks.If he's from Benghazi chances are he hated Qadafi. Haftar would have to overcome the Misrata Brigades that prop up Tripoli
 
Havana Moon said:
The Allies would have prevailed in 1919, without the US contingent. Their presence was more of a morale booster than anything else. Both sides had been bled white by 1918, the Germans were starving. Even the Michael Offensive ran out of steam very quickly due to lack of crack storm troops and extended supply lines. The Allies had a plan for a massive mechanised advance in 1919 which would have finally have brought Germany to its knees.
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What are the odds all of your posts fall in the gaussian noise distribution as they do? Nothing is more predictable than the downward slope of the European appreciation curve for the USA over time after a war we win for you.

There are statues of Patton in Europe, none of Monty in the USA. NOTE THE DISTINCTION!
 
Article 5 is cool as long as we get to invoke it for ourselves --- but since 9/11 is so long ago, we don't need it anymore -- deal with it you Euro bastards --- Fuck NATO --- Russia -US -- China is the new justice league
 
Micawber said:
What are the odds all of your posts fall in the gaussian noise distribution as they do? Nothing is more predictable than the downward slope of the European appreciation curve for the USA over time after a war we win for you.

There are statues of Patton in Europe, none of Monty in the USA. NOTE THE DISTINCTION!
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What are the odds of you ever saying anything truthful? I have been all up and down the Normandy beaches from Ouistreham to Pointe de Hoc more than once. There are in fact several statues to Montgomery. Here is just one in Colleville-Montgomery, yes that's right they renamed the village after him. Seriously you really need to shut the fuck up and stop being such a cunt. That's probably impossible so just kill yourself instead!

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http://statues.vanderkrogt.net/object.php?webpage=ST&record=frbn030
 
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Havana Moon said:
What are the odds of you ever saying anything truthful? I have been all up and down the Normandy beaches from Ouistreham to Pointe de Hoc more than once. There are in fact several statues to Montgomery. Here is just one in Colleville-Montgomery, yes that's right they renamed the village after him. Seriously you really need to shut the fuck up and stop being such a cunt.

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http://statues.vanderkrogt.net/object.php?webpage=ST&record=frbn030
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Here is Montgomery Square in Brussels, ignorant fuckwit!! There is a statue of Montgomery on l'Avenue de Tervueren facing it.

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Fentoine Lum said:
Always was, americans just get pissy when they can't run the entire thing like they own it.
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Pretty much always have. We are giving you the opportunity to change that if you pony up more so we can shut our deplorables up for a spell. Then we can get back to business as usual.
 
Havana Moon said:
Here is Montgomery Square in Brussels, ignorant fuckwit!! There is a statue of Montgomery on l'Avenue de Tervueren facing it.

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Why am I not surprised you missed the point. No monte in the USA

Let it sink in. Maybe you’ll get it before you get blotto at lunch.
 
Quetzalcoatl said:
"Mutual defense"

L-O-L. As if a single European nation would commit resources to the defense of America. They barely contribute to their own defense.
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I’m aware of the yankee go home graffiti around Europe. Well it’s probably replaced with Muslim go home graffiti
 
Micawber said:
What are the odds all of your posts fall in the gaussian noise distribution as they do? Nothing is more predictable than the downward slope of the European appreciation curve for the USA over time after a war we win for you.
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lol. I'm somewhat of a WWI buff.
If you can't make out the pie chart, here's the link: http://www.centre-robert-schuman.or...atory notes – World War I casualties – EN.pdf

You do understand the differences among 2%, 6%, 8%, 12%, 16%, 25%, and 30% casualty rates I hope.
 
Micawber said:
Why am I not surprised you missed the point. No monte in the USA

Let it sink in. Maybe you’ll get it before you get blotto at lunch.
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Americans, especially in Hollywood, always seek to inflate their own contributions and diminish others. A good example of that is the film U571, where it was Americans that captured an Enigma machine. Total bullshit but ignorant fuckers like you lap it up.
 
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