MY IDEA FOR GETTING AMERICA'S GUN PROBLEM UNDER CONTROL (by Dachshund)

Wait a minute, Are you reading the same Constitution as I am reading. The second amendment says nothing about intentions, nor does it refer to any limitation on who can or cannot own a weapon. It says:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Where did you get this BS?

Thanks for listening, and for spewing lies and BS!
 
Dachshund said:
America is an advanced, Western nation that has the very worst problem with gun violence/crime/homicide of any advanced, civilised country on Earth right now. You need to face up to the facts and start to implement some kind of meaningful gun control measures. The fact that 18 year -old Mexican - American (??) kid can buy an AR-15 (i.e. a semi-automatic M-16) without any serious/meaningful vetting process IS PURE F**KING MADNESS.



Dachshund - the Wonder Hound


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gun crime is not about guns, it is about people. Our laws and punishments have become lax in the woke society. Hold people accountable, crime goes down.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Probably true, but ho really cares about the constitution?
It's a pile of antique scribblings.

What we care about in America is US and THEM.
It's always been that way, and for as long as the republic remains, it will always stay that way.
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Discard of the Constitution of the United States.
 
archives said:
How many times does your inane car analogy have to explain to you before you accept the reality, and I’d Sandy Hook was a hoax, why would anyone even bother

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him ……….
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YOU brought up the car analogy. YOU are the one that tried to make this false equivalence fallacy. TDAK is just calling you on it!
 
archives said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you can produce a half dozen Founding Fathers quotes supplied off of NRA websites to show they wanted everyone to be armed to the teeth
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False authority fallacy. The Constitution of the United States is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.
 
Dachshund said:
Let's face facts, America has currently got a HUGE problem with gun crime.


I mean just look at what happened at Robb Elementary School (in Uvalde, Texas) last year. An 18 year old Hispanic (probably an illegal immigrant) walks into this Elementary School with an AR-15 rifle (which is effectively the same as a US Army M-16, only it cannot fire in fully = automatic mode - just semi-automatic, which means you can still squeeze off up to 60 rounds/minute). BTW, the AR-15 was the Official and Provisional IRA's favourite weapon; they loved it so much, they even wrote a song about it ("My Little Armalite", I think it was called). And guess who sent the IRA their very first batch of 27 AR-15s? I'll tell you, it was a group of crazy, white Yankee goof-balls who purchased them legally, over-the-counter, at gun shops in America, then bundled them all up together and sent them by US Post to Belfast. So, to continue, this 18 year old Hispanic casually walks into Robb Elementary School carrying an AR-15. He the, walks into a classroom of 4th grade kids and some teachers and says to them: "it's time to die." He then fires his AR-15 into the class and quickly kills 19 of the kids and two teachers. I forget how many casualties there were who survived. But the only way you don't die very fast if you are hit by a round from an AR-15 is if you are hit in an extremity like the hand/forearm or foot/lower leg.



Watching the video from the video cam-corder devices the cops were wearing and the footage from a school surveillance camera at the end of the hall the 4th graders' classroom was in - hearing rapid, semi-automatic fire from the AR-15 was one of the most sickening experiences of my life.



I hope you all understand that when the 2nd Amendment was ratified on December 15th of 1791, it was NEVER EVER the intention of the Founders that every American individual should be given some kind of absolute, sacred, right to purchase, possess and bear arms. That was NEVER, EVER, what they intended in the 2nd Amendment; and if they knew about the rates of gun crime in America today, they would be absolutely appalled and horrified


But how do you start to sort out the gigantic problem the US has with gun-crime today?


Here is just ONE measure I believe would at represent a meaningful start to sorting out the mess.


Any one over 18 who wants to purchase a firearm has to present official evidence that they have an IQ of 100 points AT LEAST, as evaluated using a standardised intelligence test (exactly like the US Military uses). A range of these tests already exist and have been validated countless times, they do not contain any kind of cultural bias either.


Of course, there is no absolute guarantee that a person who presents official evidence they have an IQ of 100 or over, will not buy a gun and perpetrate some heinous crime with it. But having an IQ of 100 points tend to correlate pretty well with being, at least, a NORMAL, REASONABLE, American adult - someone who is not unlikely to go and shoot up a elementry school

If Congress passed a measure like this , let's call it: the "Mandate for Cognitive Competence Firearms' Act"; OVERNIGHT South Chicago, to give one example, would be transformed from a bloody "killing field" to a relatively safe area. I GUARANTEE it.

For those who would object to such a firearms bill, the unified political response from Congress would be: "TOUGH TITTY, DUDE !! IT'S A GOOD PROPOSAL THAT WILL SAVE THOUSANDS OF LIVES AT THE STROKE OF A PEN.


Dachshund - the Wonder Hound


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America is a gun junkie nothing will change that!
 
Slowcat66 said:
Wait a minute, Are you reading the same Constitution as I am reading. The second amendment says nothing about intentions, nor does it refer to any limitation on who can or cannot own a weapon. It says:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Where did you get this BS?

Thanks for listening, and for spewing lies and BS!
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He gets it from the Democrats, that discard the Constitution of the United States.

2nd Amendment said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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This amendment applies to the States, and is reiterated and clarified for the federal government (which never had authority over any weapons already).
It discusses two related rights, both based on self defense.

It acknowledges the right of a State to defend itself by forming militias (armies). The 'well regulated' is to be 'made regular', in other words organized as a single entity under the command of a free State. This army is commanded by the governor of that State.
Washington's militia currently contains 75 members, which are administrative personnel. Should the legislature choose to do so in the face of defending Washington State from insurrection or invasion, they are fully authorized to activate this militia as a fighting force to put down such insurrection or invasion.

It acknowledges the right of an individual (the people) to defend themselves by keeping (owning) and bearing (carrying) Arms (any weapon, including any gun).

Neither right shall be infringed. No State may pass any law infringing on either of these rights. The federal government may not pass any law infringing on either of these rights.

Since the right of the people to defend themselves, their property, their family, their community, and their State from those who seek to destroy them; is the right being attacked here, it is the portion of the amendment usually quoted.

One does not have to be a member of a militia to be people. One does not have to be a member of a militia to own and carry a weapon. ANY KIND OF WEAPON, including ANY KIND OF GUN.

Each State constitution reiterates this inherent right, again specifically mentioning the people, not a militia.

In Washington, private militias (armies) are prohibited. Only the State has the right to form a militia. The right of the people to own and carry weapons is specifically mentioned yet again.

This right is inherent. Even animals have this right to defend themselves to the best of their ability using everything they can at their disposal. Man is no different here. The State is no different here.
 
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