Most Gazans didn't support Hamas attacking

christiefan915 said:
You obviously didn't read any of the posts I was responding to and just want to cover your ignorance by name-calling. I guess you think continually flapping your gums about something makes you an authority. How does one "get rid of Gaza, etc." peacefully, you insufferable moron?

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I said nothing about being peaceful.

YOU said "genocide," a word you have no idea the meaning of.

Let me help you, Comrade:

genocide[FONT=&quot], the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their [/FONT]ethnicity[FONT=&quot], [/FONT]nationality[FONT=&quot], religion, or [/FONT]race[FONT=&quot].

Gaza is not an [/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]ethnicity[FONT=&quot], [/FONT]nationality[FONT=&quot], religion, or [/FONT]race[FONT=&quot].

Even IF Israel were to slaughter everyone in Gaza - which they are not doing - it would not be genocide. The people in Gaza are ethnic Arabs. They are of a nomad nationality - having no actual nation. Most came from Egypt or Jordan. They are radical Muslims. And of the Asian race.

You spew idiocy for shock value. We get it, you hate Jews like all democrats do. But when you start accusing the victims of a terror attack of genocide - well, fuck you.[/FONT]
 
ExpressLane said:
And exactly how would you do that. Would you drop leaflets warning innocents to evacuate? Would you bomb known locations that have launched rockets at Israel?
Would you blow up the headquarters of Hamas. Would you blow up leaders of Hamas homes?

What precisely would you do?
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I'm not a military strategist, dummy. Let the Israeli army figure that out.
 
Cypress said:
It probably doesn't meet the legal definition of a prison, if there is one.

I don't think Gazans can stroll in and out without Israeli authorization, the whole area is cordoned off by razor wire and guard towers, and access to the sea is limited to a narrow coastal zone for Gazan fisherman.


If the question is whether it is as bad as the Vorkuta Gulag camp, it's undoubtedly not. I would rather be restricted to the Gaza strip than to the Vorkuta labor camp.
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I'm not a lawyer and there are all forms of prison. Consider Down Under wife-beating assholes; aren't they forming a prison of sorts for their wives? The women can leave them, preferably after cutting off a souvenir, but they don't. Why? Same goes for the Palestinians in Gaza. It's been over 70 years and now they are a suicide cult. If they weren't into it, why not pick up sticks and run?

Consider that not all MAGAts are violent Trumpers. Some just materially support the violent ones or simply cheer them on without the material or physical support. Do they share any blame for the results?

Agreed the Israelis don't let Palestinians in without clearance. Same for the Egyptians. That doesn't stop them leaving on rafts, much less Arab nations sending them boats for evacuation.

That said, I disagree that Palestinians are anymore restricted to Gaza any more than poor people in any other ghetto. They simply have limited access to go elsewhere. Do other Arab nations want them? Other Euro nations? Like the abused wife, why don't they leave. They can do so anywhere along 25 miles of beach.
 
christiefan915 said:
And if Ukraine had invaded Russia first under some pretext, I'd be for Russia.

I don't support violence by anybody. How many times do I have to repeat this?
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But you don't really mind violence by Hamas. I mean, they were just defending themselves, right? You oppose the Jews responding - because let's face it, you hate Jews. But Hamas had no choice but to cut the heads off babies.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
I said nothing about being peaceful.

YOU said "genocide," a word you have no idea the meaning of.

Let me help you, Comrade:

genocide, the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.

Gaza is not an ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.

Even IF Israel were to slaughter everyone in Gaza - which they are not doing - it would not be genocide. The people in Gaza are ethnic Arabs. They are of a nomad nationality - having no actual nation. Most came from Egypt or Jordan. They are radical Muslims. And of the Asian race.

You spew idiocy for shock value. We get it, you hate Jews like all democrats do. But when you start accusing the victims of a terror attack of genocide - well, fuck you.
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^ This is why you're such a worthless piece of shit. Where did I ACCUSE anybody of genocide? Link to this accusation or admit you're lying.

And for the record, genocide also applies to national groups: Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[SUP][a][/SUP] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group."

You're a lying, dishonest, unintelligent shit-stirrer and I'm done with you. Piss off.
 
BartenderElite said:
I 100% support Israel targeting Hamas.

But how many Palestinian civilians will die & suffer along the way? I reject the notion that they "have it coming" or that they could have avoided that by leaving or "ousting Hamas."
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How many German civilians died and suffered in order to oust the Nazis?

When cutting out cancer, some healthy tissue will be removed as well.
 
christiefan915 said:
You obviously didn't read any of the posts I was responding to and just want to cover your ignorance by name-calling. I guess you think continually flapping your gums about something makes you an authority. How does one "get rid of Gaza, etc." peacefully, you insufferable moron?

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Was that directed at me? I never said peacefully....
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
I did eat a chocolate covered ant once- ONCE!

And I ate a grasshopper while cruising through New Mexico on my Harley once! :whoa:

Does that count?
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I had a wasp fly inside my faceshield on my helmet once. It is hard getting one out while going 70 mph without crashing but I did it! :laugh: The grasshopper counts if it got stuck between your teeth.
 
christiefan915 said:
^ This is why you're such a worthless piece of shit. Where did I ACCUSE anybody of genocide? Link to this accusation or admit you're lying.
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One of us is a notorious fucking liar, the other is me.

Link? Right here.

Most Gazans didn't support Hamas attacking - Page 13 (justplainpolitics.com)


And for the record, genocide also applies to national groups: Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[SUP][a][/SUP] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group."

You're a lying, dishonest, unintelligent shit-stirrer and I'm done with you. Piss off.
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Prior to yesterday, the attempt to create a distinct "Gazan" was never done.

Only as you of the antisemitic left circled the wagons around your Hamas partners did such idiocy arise. Are these not "Palestinians" anymore?

Because it isn't convenient to your current pro-terrorist propaganda.
 
ExpressLane said:
Why would they do that? They have already announced their intent by telling them to evacuate. They would not do that if they intentionally wanted to kill civilians.
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How easy are they making it for people to evacuate? They have a land, sea and air blockade. What's the timeline for this evacuation?
 
christiefan915 said:
What's your explanation for all the illegal settlements being built in Gaza?

[FONT=&]"The Israeli settlements, often deemed illegal by international law, are experiencing an explosive growth, causing ripples of concern across the globe. A matter of severe contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the expansion of these settlements has been met with condemnation from multiple nations and international organizations.

[/FONT][FONT=&]Statistics indicate a rapid acceleration in the number of settlements, pointing to the serious implications of this trend. These settlements are constructed on lands earmarked by Palestinians for their prospective independent state, thereby becoming a major roadblock in peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians."[/FONT][FONT=&]


[/FONT]https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/the-alarming-expansion-of-israeli-settlements-a-threat-to-peace/ar-AA1i7SD6
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There are ZERO Israeli settlements in Gaza. The three large and 19 small that were there are long gone. Israel removed the population of all 21 and abandoned them decades ago.
 
Doc Dutch said:
I'm not a lawyer and there are all forms of prison. Consider Down Under wife-beating assholes; aren't they forming a prison of sorts for their wives? The women can leave them, preferably after cutting off a souvenir, but they don't. Why? Same goes for the Palestinians in Gaza. It's been over 70 years and now they are a suicide cult. If they weren't into it, why not pick up sticks and run?

Consider that not all MAGAts are violent Trumpers. Some just materially support the violent ones or simply cheer them on without the material or physical support. Do they share any blame for the results?

Agreed the Israelis don't let Palestinians in without clearance. Same for the Egyptians. That doesn't stop them leaving on rafts, much less Arab nations sending them boats for evacuation.

That said, I disagree that Palestinians are anymore restricted to Gaza any more than poor people in any other ghetto. They simply have limited access to go elsewhere. Do other Arab nations want them? Other Euro nations? Like the abused wife, why don't they leave. They can do so anywhere along 25 miles of beach.
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More to the point, the Gazans could be working to improve their living conditions and lives rather than spending energy and wealth on waging perpetual--and ineffectual--war on Israel...
 
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