So, if "education is not a guarantee of success, or even of ability," what makes the "educated" superior to who you say are the "uneducated"?
Most and least educated states in the U.S.
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So, if "education is not a guarantee of success, or even of ability," what makes the "educated" superior to who you say are the "uneducated"?
I never said educated was superior to uneducated.
Wilhelm Zenz
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thay are so stupid
So it is true they really are stupid and ignorant, we actually have proof now
So it is true they really are stupid and ignorant, we actually have proof now
Wilhelm Zenz
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Sad reallly
You seem to berate those you claim are "uneducated." My question is what do you consider "educated"?
Do you consider someone with no high school diploma, but 35 years hands-on work experience "uneducated"?
Where do a berate those who are uneducated? I say there is a major problem with white uneducated people dying in larger numbers, and bringing down the life expectancy of the USA, but that is different from berating. That is talking about a health problem that has killed more people than AIDS.
There is no amount of non-education that makes one educated. 35 years of hands-on work experience is training. If I want some carpentry done, I would rather hire someone who is trained than someone who is educated.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I think he just said he had a master.......
Make fun all you like, but stats don't lie. There are racial implications when it comes to IQ. Denial doesn't change reality.
To be fair, IQ is only one facet of intelligence. Accepting that there are aggregate differences between races doesn't mean that one race is superior to another overall. It just means that we're different in certain respects. This goes beyond the mental. There are physical differences as well.
I get why people are reluctant to accept these differences, because they were sometimes used by racists to justify things like segregation or other forms of oppression. Eugenicists were the main culprits of this. However, this does not mean we should deny differences between races.
It's like how we should acknowledge differences between men and women. The fact that we often deny differences between the sexes is why we've been illogical at dealing with trans issues realistically. All this nonsense of allowing biological males to compete against biological females in various athletics wouldn't happen if we just honestly admitted that biological males have major advantages in athletics over women because of testosterone and bone mass.
Yet most of the states that people are moving to are red or at least swing states. Most of the states that people are moving out of are blue states.
If these states are so bad, why do people keep moving to them?
Most of the "IQ" tests were devised by white men.
Make the tests rate ability to live without the constraints of society...(i.e. street smarts)...and the results would be remarkably skewed in a different direction.
Comes the apocalypse...the smart white people are almost certainly going to be counting on smart non-whites to get them through the troubles.
He probably has many, he's obviously had many throughout his measly existence. The only thing he's mastered is racism.
Then I suppose you'll agree with my statement that IQ is only one facet of intelligence. Also, there are certain biases in IQ tests, although they are somewhat overstated. It would be hard to assume that there is a white bias when East Asians are the highest scorers on IQ tests, typically.
And yes, being streetwise is quite important in many contexts. In an apocalypse, however, naturalistic intelligence is the most important, which is most prominent among many rural whites -- the same whites that many of you have been making fun of.
Many rural whites also have practical skills that are needed in rough times and good times alike (like mechanic skills, electrical skills, plumbing skills, etc.).
So, education comes in many forms -- not just the 4 year variety. A person who goes through community college to become an electrician or plumber won't have massive student loans to pay off and will have a good paying job right out of college. Many of these people end up running their own businesses later on.
IQ tests are useless. http://trendintech.com/2016/07/28/scientists-prove-traditional-iq-tests-useless/ They show how good you are at taking tests. What is undeniable is the South has not put the money and time into education for the lower class. A good education is available to the chosen ones, the wealthier. The masses are behind due to policy, not ability.
I will agree that measures of IQ are only one facet of intelligence...and not an especially good one.
There are biases...and the vast majority of IQ tests were devised by white...AMERICAN white men. Not sure of why Asians (East Asians and Far East Asians) score better than most, but I have worked with MANY Asians...and they are ultra adamant that their kids study hard. I suspect most of them are studying material that is considered important by the people who devised the tests.
I am NOT making fun of anyone here. I am offering comments.
All I can do is guess...but my guess would be if a major asteroid strike occurred, "naturalistic intelligence of rural whites" would come in a very poor second place to street smart urban blacks.
Terrific. And if a major asteroid strike ensued...they could get jobs as mechanics, electricians and plumbers.
Okay. So...how does that impact on the most and least educated states?
Yet a lot of people move there. It's also more racially diverse than a lot of the country. Calling it a shithole kind of goes against that whole "diversity is our strength" mantra.
I guess East Asians must be really good at taking tests then. That would explain why they are held to a higher standard in admission to many universities. I guess that means blacks and Latinos aren't as good at taking tests, which would explain having lower standards for them in admission.
But if IQ tests only prove how good you are at taking tests, isn't that somewhat applicable to education in general?
Also, as far as the money side of this goes, tuition is generally more affordable in the South than it is in a lot of the rest of the country. Blue states often have exorbitantly high tuition, like in California. I don't see how saddling tons of young people with massive debts is an advantage.