Missing the point on mass shootings.

PostmodernProphet said:
I guess lib'ruls only care if random people get murdered with AR-15s......if its just some black guy they know and they use a handgun its no big deal......
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No one said that. Addressing one problem is not the same as saying that another problem doesn't exist.
 
Celticguy said:
I'll worry about AR15s when they overtake handguns ion murders.

Pols worry about AR15s as they are the greate3r threat to them personally.

Its a good thing that pols fear constitutionally protected firearms.

That was the whole point.
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I don't worry about AR15's at all. There is no need to.
 
martin said:
The connection that seems to elude every gun nut is not one between guns and random sorts of victims or between guns and the mere availability of other types of weapons. It is the connection between a certain kind of gun and a certain kind of killer. Almost every mass killing in the United States is with an AR-15 by a white male under the age of 25, usually under the age of 20. Why is this? With the gun it is because the AR-15 has both repetitive firepower and a great macho look. With the killer it is because 1) he is hungry for that firepower and hungry for that great macho look and 2) as an angry and desperate type of young white male he is uniquely prone to having this hunger.
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What seems to elude you is gang violence.

Nice try tho Eurofag.
 
Earl said:
Well, no, Marty, you used an UN-constitutional approach, not I.
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Different things. But neither is the approach un-Constitutional. The only Constitutional implication you might find relates to the continued legal status of the AR-15 which has been banned successfully before.
 
martin said:
Different things. But neither is the approach un-Constitutional. The only Constitutional implication you might find relates to the continued legal status of the AR-15 which has been banned successfully before.
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"Carry" was banned in NY but the Supreme Court un-banned it, Marty.

Poor Marty.
 
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martin said:
Teenagers predominantly and a separate phenomenon, but remind me, shithead, me of a school or other mass shooting by a gang.
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School kids at a graduation party:

The first incident in the Axios report involved two cars pulling up at a graduation party in Summerton, SC, and opening fire, killing one and wounding another seven. Almost all the victims were in their teens. According to police, it was a gang-related shooting stemming from previous drive-by shootings.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/06/pols-ignore-the-real-mass-shooting-threat-gang-violence/


Poor Marty.
 
Earl said:
"Carry" was banned in NY but the Supreme Court UN-banned it, Marty.

Poor Marty.
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Your defensiveness gives away your insecurity, Earl. As for your argument, if NY banned the AR 15 that would address the problem I raised. If NY raised the legal age to purchase any gun to 21 or required training and a license before purchase that also would address the problem. It's unlikely the SC would "un-ban" either law.
 
Diesel said:
No one said that. Addressing one problem is not the same as saying that another problem doesn't exist.
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what is the difference in problem.......people are shooting other people.....(and yes driveby shootings are also random as bystanders are often killed)......
 
martin said:
Your defensiveness gives away your insecurity, Earl. As for your argument, if NY banned the AR 15 that would address the problem I raised. If NY raised the legal age to purchase any gun to 21 or required training and a license before purchase that also would address the problem. It's unlikely the SC would "un-ban" either law.
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You are the one getting defensive and losing your self control, Marty "... but remind me, shithead..."

Such scatological language, Marty. You must have an insecurity problem, Marty. You are becoming very defensive with your shucking and jiving, Marty.

The Second does not mention banning any gun, Marty. Heller vs. D.C. and the NY ruling indicate a change in attitude at the S.C., Marty.

Remember, it's 6-3 at the S.C. now.

Lots of gun laws will be banned, Marty.

Poor Marty.
 
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The LCD appears to be the people, not the gun.

Honest law abiding Americans who never use their guns to commit a crime don't kill people.

The thugs and the mentally unstable kill people.

Ban thugs and the mentally unstable..

Yes, sounds right.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
none of the "causes" are AR-15s.........
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The AR 15 is more a temptation-turned-solution than a cause of mass shooting, and it is a cause of the "mass". The victim count would be much less without them assuming there would be a victim count at all if a psychotic loner couldn't enter a school feeling like Rambo.
 
martin said:
The AR 15 is more a temptation-turned-solution than a cause of mass shooting, and it is a cause of the "mass".The victim count would be much less without them assuming there would be a victim count at all if a psychotic loner couldn't enter a school feeling like Rambo.
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As I posted, Marty:

The LCD appears to be the people, not the gun.

Honest law abiding Americans who never use their guns to commit a crime don't kill people.

The thugs and the mentally unstable kill people.

Ban thugs and the mentally unstable..

Yes, sounds right.


The victim count would be much less if we banned thugs and the mentally unstable, Marty.
 
Earl said:
As I posted, Marty:

The LCD appears to be the people, not the gun.

Honest law abiding Americans who never use their guns to commit a crime don't kill people.

The thugs and the mentally unstable kill people.

Ban thugs and the mentally unstable..

Yes, sounds right.


The victim count would be much less if we banned thugs and the mentally unstable, Marty.
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We could start by keeping them in jail instead releasing them without bail or giving minimal sentences.
 
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