Minimum Wage Hike

Banned said:
Neither Krugman nor SF predicted the Great Recession as accuratly as uscitizen did.
Heck not even MR. The parking lots are full got it right.
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You obviously are smoking crack. uscitizen didn't accurately predict anything. He said the same thing for about 5 years and eventually he became right.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Does anyone need anymore proof than this about the knee jerk reaction of pasty assed chamber of commerce white guys with $12 haircuts shooting themselves in the foot over this issue? LOL
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LOL... yet another liberal with yet another pathetic response. Funny how none of you can address the actual problem. Instead you resort to sad attempts like the above.
 
Superfreak said:
It is the above mindset that needs to be changed. Minimum wage jobs are not supposed to pay enough for a person to fully support themselves. They are jobs for the unskilled. The majority of whom are under 25.

The rise in minimum wage in the past hasn't changed the fact that they can't live off of it alone. If you pay the unskilled at a level they can support themselves, then:

1) What is the motivation to obtain a skill set?
2) What do you pay those that develop a skill set?
3) If the unskilled get a raise, what do you suppose the skilled workers will want?
4) If the raises start working up the skill set chain... what happens to the overall costs of goods?

You see, it is a circular problem. That is why the mindset needs to change. No increase in the minimum wage will ever be enough for a person to fully support themselves.
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Dude, you are completely out of touch with reality. I don't know a single person making minimum wage who's thinking "Wow, it would be nice if they give me $9/hr so I don't have to learn a skill and can take a months vacation in the Cayman Islands. Get real!
 
Us citizen said the same thing 5 years up to the recession!
He was right 1 of 5 times. I was right 4 of 5.
Kinda of why I'm richer
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Dude, you are completely out of touch with reality. I don't know a single person making minimum wage who's thinking "Wow, it would be nice if they give me $9/hr so I don't have to learn a skill and can take a months vacation in the Cayman Islands. Get real!
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It's the same bullshit argument they use to oppose unemployment benefits.
 
Superfreak said:
LOL... yet another liberal with yet another pathetic response. Funny how none of you can address the actual problem. Instead you resort to sad attempts like the above.
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Yea well I don't exactly see a horde of women, young people, Hispanics or Blacks rallying to your cry and hue. You need to stop and think about the political dimensions of this issue. This is a losing argument that's being made by Republicans. Wouldn't it just be smarter to kill it all together by tying minimum wage to inflation? Then Republican can brag that "We've made sure that hard working people get a fair days wage for a fair days work" and Democrats would have to STFU. You are not thinking about the political strategy involved here at all. Your argument are a knee jerk reaction and this is exactly what Obama and Democrats expected you to do. Congratulations for being a tool.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Dude, you are completely out of touch with reality. I don't know a single person making minimum wage who's thinking "Wow, it would be nice if they give me $9/hr so I don't have to learn a skill and can take a months vacation in the Cayman Islands. Get real!
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That is one hell of a straw man. Comical that you say I am out of touch with reality. You can't even read what was written and comprehend it.
 
Superfreak said:
here we go... Mutt creates a strawman so impressive that the king of straw men rides in and admires the work.
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LOL. Yeah, because Republicans have never opposed unemployment benefits on the grounds that being on unemployment is so awesome that people won't look for work and get jobs.
 
Threedee said:
$12 haircuts are cheap. Mine cost $17! :hedb:
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.....and your State tied the minimum wage to inflation a long time ago. The minimum wage in Washington is what? $9.10/hr? The Unemployment rate is like what 7.5%? One of the lowest in the nation. Don't see Democrats beating up Republicans on the issue there either, do you?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yea well I don't exactly see a horde of women, young people, Hispanics or Blacks rallying to your cry and hue. You need to stop and think about the political dimensions of this issue. This is a losing argument that's being made by Republicans. Wouldn't it just be smarter to kill it all together by tying minimum wage to inflation? Then Republican can brag that "We've made sure that hard working people get a fair days wage for a fair days work" and Democrats would have to STFU. You are not thinking about the political strategy involved here at all. Your argument are a knee jerk reaction and this is exactly what Obama and Democrats expected you to do. Congratulations for being a tool.
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How is discussing the economic effects of raising the minimum wage a knee jerk response? You believe the politics of it is more important than the economic aspects. Fair enough, that's your opinon. But anyone who thinks the opposite is not having a rational response? Not buying that.
 
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