Mexico ready to hit the US where it hurts: Corn

I am all for it. Let them do it

Getting corn from Brazil might be a bit of a problem:

Brazil Needs U.S. Corn

Shortage sparks U.S. corn purchases

6/14/2016

With the dollar appreciating, Brazilian corn has become more competitive abroad and has driven overseas sales of the grain. However, the record exports have dropped national stocks and created a severe supply crisis.

Ironically, Brazil has gone from a net corn exporter to a net corn importer. It is trying to source corn from neighboring South American countries. Yet, U.S. corn is needed, due to the large shortages.

Corn prices have risen sharply in the domestic market and, given that 70% of animal feed comprises corn, poultry and pig production are threatened. “Pig raising is the hardest hit. Many producers are giving up the activity,” says Losivanio Luiz de Lorenzi, president of the Pig Raisers´ Association of Santa Catarina (ACCS).

The supply crisis is so serious that poultry and pig producers are sourcing corn from other markets. In May, Lorenzi visited Paraguay and negotiated the first batch of 1,000 tons of Paraguayan corn for import. “It was cheaper to import it from Paraguay. We managed to buy corn at US$ 160 per ton, while national corn would have cost US$ 267 per ton,” stated Lorenzi.

The first shipment is set to leave Paraguay on June 20, and Lorenzi envisions further purchases. “This first batch was just a test. We shall go to Paraguay again this month and seal further contracts. Everything hinges on the price of corn and on the exchange rate,” says Lorenzi. “Some companies are already sourcing corn from the U.S.”
The situation is the same in other regions of Brazil. In July, the Poultry Growers´ Association of Espírito Santo State (AVES) is to take delivery of 25,000 tons of corn imported from Argentina.

“We were obliged to seek alternatives for corn supply”, affirmed Nélio Hand, executive director of AVES. According to Hand, whereas Brazilian corn is currently sold in Espírito Santo for around R$ 60 per bag (US$ 7.32 per bushel), the association paid R$ 53 per bag (US$ 6.46 per bushel) for the imported Argentinian corn. “There has been uncontrolled exporting of corn, and now we are seeing a highly opportunist speculative market,” says Hand. “Clearly, corn producers need to make money, but this segment is profiting to the detriment of other sectors.”

Up to May 2016, Brazil imported 378,260 tons of corn. The volume recorded in the first five months of the year already exceeds total imports for 2015 of 369,530 tons. Corn imports are up 170% on volumes for the January-May period last year, when Brazil imported 139,880 tons of the grain.

In the case of exports, from January to May this year, 12.2 million tons were exported, a 139% increase on the 5.1 million tons exported during the same period in 2015.

Low corn stocks

According to estimates by INTL FCStone consulting, 2016 began with stocks of 4.3 million tons. “Factoring in lower exports this year, our estimate is stocks of 2.5 million tons at the end of the 2015/2016 harvest. For a market the size of ours, this is a really low figure,” says Ana Luiza Lodi, corn analyst of INTL FCStone. “With this situation, we have gone from major exporter to importer of corn. But I believe that the winter harvest should relieve the situation as of July, and we hope more grain can be channeled into the internal market.”

Rising corn price hits poultry and pig production

In Santa Catarina, corn cost around R$ 27 per bag in January (US$ 3.29 per bushel). Since then, domestic prices have soared, with the grain fetching over R$ 56 per bag (US$ 6.83 per bushel) in the region at the beginning of June. “We are seeing losses of around R$ 100 [US$ 28.60] per pig,” says Lorenzi, president of ACCS. “It is a desperate situation. Word is that corn may rise to R$ 70 per bag (US$ 8.54 per bushel), and now the price of soybean meal is also higher.”

With the crisis, the general reaction of the poultry and pigs sectors is a slowdown in operations. The industry is downsizing operations in order to cut costs*through compulsory vacations for employees and even closure of factories.

The Aurora Foods Central Cooperative of Santa Catarina is to cease running one of its chicken slaughter shifts*as of July. Another example is BRF, which is shutting down a slaughterhouse located in the state of Goias and suspending operations in another factory. Independent producers have been suffering for months.

“There has been a reduction in the number of pens,” says Nélio Hand, of AVES. “Pig producers are sending animals for slaughter earlier, and there has also been early disposal of commercial layers.”

According to Augusto Maia, animal protein researcher from the Center for Advanced Studies in Applied Economics (CEPEA), the Brazilian economic crisis aggravates this scenario. “Because of the recession in the country, there is also a decline in demand for meat and excess of the product in Brazil,” says Maia.

He holds that as a consequence, poultry and pig producers have been unable to pass their increased costs on to consumers.* “No end to the crisis is in sight. Balance will be restored only when poultry and pig production costs fall,” affirms Maia. “Yet the dollar remains high, driving corn exports. Corn producers are unwilling to stop exporting.”
Government moves to avert the supply crisis.

To date, the Brazilian government has auctioned off 162,000 tons of corn from public stockpiles and pledges to release a further 500,000 tons to regulate the market. The Federal government also lifted tax on imported corn, previously subject to a tariff of 8%.

“We have 70% of corn production from the Mid-West presold to the international market. With overheated internal trade, the product is being repurchased to supply the domestic market,” affirmed the secretariat of agricultural policy of the Ministry of Agriculture, Neri Geller, in an official statement.

All sources consulted by Successful Farming-Brazil stated that the volume of corn auctioned was insignificant*given the level of national consumption.
“This is an ad hoc action that will help few producers,” says Maia from CEPEA. Another criticism is that each producer is entitled to purchase a maximum of only 6 tons of corn. “This is a very low quota that fails to reflect the needs of poultry and pig raisers,” says Lorenzi.

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Then Argentina is mentioned and they do grow a substantial amount of corn; but a lot of the farmers are switching over to soybean and the growing season for corn, in Argentina is after the growing season in the US; so Mexico would have to put off their purchasing until after the US corn has already reached the market, been sold, and hope that Argentina would be able to export what Mexico needs.
 
Trump started the war by threatening it.

There are other nations who sell corn. No one has to buy it from the US.

.. and if you think this won't hurt American farmers .. OK. :0)

Farm country could lose big in a trade war

For Minnesota and the rest of the Midwest, it likely means farmers are hurt even more than they have been in recent years by low prices caused by abundant crops.

The U.S. exported $2.3 billion worth of corn in 2015, as well as soybeans ($1.4 billion), dairy products ($1.3 billion), pork & pork products ($1.3 billion), and beef & beef products ($1.1 billion).

The losses in a trade war with Mexico are on top of the losses caused by the decision to pull out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership earlier this week.

“It would be really damaging for us, given that so much of our products go to Mexico now,” Dermot Hayes, an Iowa State University agricultural economist, said earlier this week.
http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2017/01/farm-country-could-lose-big-in-a-trade-war/
When trump was making noise about NAFTA during the election run, I mentioned that the Midwest won't be very happy. NAFTA is all about corn. We send our manufacturing, and our corn across the Southern border

In fact, NAFTA killed Mexico's corn industry, but they felt that they were getting manufacturing in return.

Virtually every trade agreement we have entails keeping Big Agra happy in this country. trump doesn't understand that tweets have consequences.
 
https://prospectjournal.org/2010/04...g-the-displacement-of-mexicos-corn-farmers-2/

[FONT=&quot]This paper intends to explicate the causal relationship between U.S. federal subsidies for domestically produced corn and the post-NAFTA rural to urban migration in Mexico. While corn production has been central to the Mexican economy for centuries, it cannot economically compete with highly subsidized corn produced in the United States. In 1994 the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) liberalized the markets of Canada, the United States, and Mexico, effectively eliminating nearly all trade barriers. Consequently, corn produced in Mexico now competes directly with American corn in North American markets. Competition with artificially distorted U.S. corn prices has driven unsubsidized corn produced in Mexico out of its customary domestic market as Mexican consumers began to purchase American corn. Mexican corn farmers were no longer able to make a sustainable living due the plummeting demand for their produce and accordingly migrated from rural farms to urban centers in search of employment. Therefore, American corn subsidies are primarily responsible for the rural to urban population shift in Mexico that manifested following the NAFTA deal in 1994.[/FONT]
 
Yep, we subsidize the hell out of corn. It's time for a shift. The subsidies are ridiculous and have ruined crop diversity in the U.S..

Obama was not only the cornhole pres, but also the corn pres.. It's no coincidence that Illinois is the second largest corn producing State.
 
Guess we'll see a bunch of Mexican corn pickers that no longer have jobs return to Mexico.....

Its a start.
You are so stupid, it is entertaining, you actually think they hand pick corn? This shows just how little you know. Corn is harvested by large machines.

Pssst, they don't hand pick wheat, either.
 
No such thing as corn pickers, bucket head.

Corn is harvested by giant machines.

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I was laughing so hard, Vanilla Nova is such an idiot. Corn pickers bawahaha
 
When trump was making noise about NAFTA during the election run, I mentioned that the Midwest won't be very happy. NAFTA is all about corn. We send our manufacturing, and our corn across the Southern border

In fact, NAFTA killed Mexico's corn industry, but they felt that they were getting manufacturing in return.

Virtually every trade agreement we have entails keeping Big Agra happy in this country. trump doesn't understand that tweets have consequences.
He further insulted Mexico yesterday when addressing the nation with Trudeau. His handlers should tell him, like the handlers had to to Bush, no talking off the cuff, read your lines and shut up.
 
so the choice is corn or manufacturing? I would rather have manufacturing :0 In all probability the corn we sell mexico can be absorbed by the domestic market. If not its easier to find buyers for the volume of corn we sell than the volume of exports coming to us which will be mexicos problem.

Its very sad that after 8 years of Obama the discussion we are having is how a country that has half its area controlled by cartels can bring the US to its knees thru trade. US really has become weak.
 
so the choice is corn or manufacturing? I would rather have manufacturing :0 In all probability the corn we sell mexico can be absorbed by the domestic market. If not its easier to find buyers for the volume of corn we sell than the volume of exports coming to us which will be mexicos problem.

Its very sad that after 8 years of Obama the discussion we are having is how a country that has half its area controlled by cartels can bring the US to its knees thru trade. US really has become weak.

Last time I checked, 40% of our corn is converted to ethanol and 38% for feeding livestock, and a good portion to corn fructose. Those are huge markets. Mexico will have little impact.

IMO, we actually need to shrink the percentage of agricultural land devoted to corn, and increase the diversify of our crops. The corn subsidies have made to many farmers switch from other crops over to corn. Time to move the pendulum in the other direction.
 
I assume you're being facetious about that

Why would you think that?

Granted, the cartels will adapt to some extent but it will raise their operating costs since a wall would put a stop to the easiest and most cost effective means of getting their product to the market. The only law these bastards can't break are the same laws that govern any other business.

I can't think of single business that likes higher operating costs, can you?
 
Why would you think that?

Granted, the cartels will adapt to some extent but it will raise their operating costs since a wall would put a stop to the easiest and most cost effective means of getting their product to the market. The only law these bastards can't break are the same laws that govern any other business.

I can't think of single business that likes higher operating costs, can you?

The demand for drugs has always been off the charts in this country, a wall is not going to change that. Now I'm not a drug person so I can't speak to the amount of cocaine for instance that comes through Mexico vs say Miami. But I have an extremely difficult time believing drug cartels won't be able to meet American demand for drugs because a wall was put up on portions of our border.
 
Last time I checked, 40% of our corn is converted to ethanol and 38% for feeding livestock, and a good portion to corn fructose. Those are huge markets. Mexico will have little impact.

IMO, we actually need to shrink the percentage of agricultural land devoted to corn, and increase the diversify of our crops. The corn subsidies have made to many farmers switch from other crops over to corn. Time to move the pendulum in the other direction.

Is Iowa the biggest corn producer and since our Presidential campaigns start in Iowa no politician wants to piss them off?
 
The demand for drugs has always been off the charts in this country, a wall is not going to change that. Now I'm not a drug person so I can't speak to the amount of cocaine for instance that comes through Mexico vs say Miami. But I have an extremely difficult time believing drug cartels won't be able to meet American demand for drugs because a wall was put up on portions of our border.

If they struggle to meet it that's a win. If they are unable to meet it that's even better.

I guarantee they don't want it built. F' em, build it.
 
Is Iowa the biggest corn producer and since our Presidential campaigns start in Iowa no politician wants to piss them off?

child of kennedy assasin was actually great when he said he wouldnt favor corn over others and he won iowa too.
 
It is fascinating to watch brain dead angry leftists cheer foreign government efforts intended to harm Americans.

But yes, they really are THAT freaking dense. :rofl2:
 
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