McConnell: Trump is responsible for inciting riot

Just look up 99% of democrat politicians. They cannot erase their history that quick. Until all of the sudden they needed protection. Now we have walls, razor wire and armed troops surrounding our Capitol. Third world shit.

Democrat politicians don’t literally applaud but they walk a disgusting tight rope when it happens—their criticism of it is muted because they don’t want to offend BLM and the rest.

They’ve had all summer to decry it if they were seriously concerned about LEO’s but it nothing but crickets until a Trump supporter maybe/maybe didn’t kill one[1] with a fire extinguisher.

They’re a pathetic lot.
 
Just look up 99% of democrat politicians. They cannot erase their history that quick. Until all of the sudden they needed protection. Now we have walls, razor wire and armed troops surrounding our Capitol. Third world shit.

You're a military man, Sailor. Are you saying it's not reasonable to protect the Capitol after it was overrun by thousands of insurgents?

Fuck the Democrats. I've never voted for a Democratic President and I don't plan to start. That said, I haven't voted for a Republican President since Romney. The RNC is now as kooky as the fucking Democrats.

Why do so many Trump supporters here think they can justify attacking the Capitol, attacking police, maiming them and killing them by finger-pointing the fucking Democrats? I don't get it.
 
I do not know if this was meant as parody, but I lol'd

Not a parody. He'd be talking about how killing Americans was collateral damage and kept dancing around "something will happen, wait and see" last December. He was a true believer. AHZ knows him and would know if he's been indicted or is in prison.

Speaking of which, AHZ, and a few others here like Stone, are/were material supporters for the insurrection. They were too chickenshit to go themselves, but they gave money and moral support for the cause. It's up to the Feds to figure it out.
 
Not a parody. He'd be talking about how killing Americans was collateral damage and kept dancing around "something will happen, wait and see" last December. He was a true believer. AHZ knows him and would know if he's been indicted or is in prison.

Speaking of which, AHZ, and a few others here like Stone, are/were material supporters for the insurrection. They were too chickenshit to go themselves, but they gave money and moral support for the cause. It's up to the Feds to figure it out.

Weird that his last post is Jan 8.

I am not going to speculate or participate in innuendo about him, because I have been targeted by bogus innuendo and spurious speculation myself.

But I will say that dude really had some mentally unstable Rambo fantasies about overthrowing the U.S. government.
 
Weird that his last post is Jan 8.

I am not going to speculate or participate in innuendo about him, because I have been targeted by bogus innuendo and spurious speculation myself.

But I will say that dude really had some mentally unstable Rambo fantasies about overthrowing the U.S. government.

Agreed. This OP of his reads like a manifesto: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?63188-chriistian-jihadists

His worship of Timothy McVeigh and pooh-pooing of American casualties as "collateral damage" was pure nutjob thinking.

This post and following conversation revealed a lot about his thoughts:
you really like to stretch the shit that people say............I said collateral damage is inevitable. I did not say I don't care about a daycare center in the building........

and how is attacking the government starting a war with we the people?
 
You're a military man, Sailor. Are you saying it's not reasonable to protect the Capitol after it was overrun by thousands of insurgents?

Fuck the Democrats. I've never voted for a Democratic President and I don't plan to start. That said, I haven't voted for a Republican President since Romney. The RNC is now as kooky as the fucking Democrats.

Why do so many Trump supporters here think they can justify attacking the Capitol, attacking police, maiming them and killing them by finger-pointing the fucking Democrats? I don't get it.

For a short duration if needed. Then you hand it over to local LE. There is zero reason for what is going on there right now.
 
For a short duration if needed. Then you hand it over to local LE. There is zero reason for what is going on there right now.

If it was the Islamic Jihadists would you agree the measures were appropriate? I sure would. Even though the Patriot Act is heavily flawed, they certainly got the part about the national defense obligations of the Constitution correct. Count the number of major terrorist attacks we've had since 9/11. It's less than Israel had every week in the 70s and 80s.

I am very, very skeptical of an all powerful Federal government. They have a job to do and I expect them to do it, but there are areas where the States must be allowed to handle on their own per the views of their citizens. If a state is suppressing votes, yes, let the Feds step in, but if the votes are fair, the citizens all agree on the vote, then it's nobody's business but their own. If people don't like it, they can work to change it or move. God Bless America.

State's Rights apply in a lot of different areas. Either we support it or we don't.
 
If it was the Islamic Jihadists would you agree the measures were appropriate? I sure would. Even though the Patriot Act is heavily flawed, they certainly got the part about the national defense obligations of the Constitution correct. Count the number of major terrorist attacks we've had since 9/11. It's less than Israel had every week in the 70s and 80s.

I am very, very skeptical of an all powerful Federal government. They have a job to do and I expect them to do it, but there are areas where the States must be allowed to handle on their own per the views of their citizens. If a state is suppressing votes, yes, let the Feds step in, but if the votes are fair, the citizens all agree on the vote, then it's nobody's business. State's Rights apply in a lot of different areas. Either we support it or we don't.

That used to be cut and dry Dutch. Too much fog now. And it is thick.
 
That used to be cut and dry Dutch. Too much fog now. And it is thick.
True, my friend, but even in WWII there was Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally spreading bullshit. Smart people make mistakes, but smart people keep checking themselves. Yes, lot's of fog, but the truth really is in the open..and it's quite boring. Boring is good. Excitement is overrated. The people looking for excitement on January 6th will regret it for the rest of their lives.

Then there's this:

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So if he was trying to disrupt the proceedings—to what end?

What was the endgame? It was a bunch of dead Trump supporters and/or whoever’s along with Trump in a jump suit. It would be a suicide mission. An actual foreign army couldn’t ‘take control’ of the government if they sailed in off the Potomac.

Makes no sense; and the reason it doesn’t, is because it’s a political narrative. They tend to not withstand even casual scrutiny.

Because he truly believed that Pence could change the results of the election. Before the riot he said "...because if Mike does the right thing we win the election" and afterwards he savaged Pence for not doing what he wanted... "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution..."
 
Because he truly believed that Pence could change the results of the election. Before the riot he said "...because if Mike does the right thing we win the election" and afterwards he savaged Pence for not doing what he wanted... "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution..."

You don't have to convince me and...let's not forget you're talking to Opie. ;)

Time will tell but it seems clear to me Trump, et al , thought they could alter an election and take over the country. Whether they pay for that crime or not remains to be seen.

The Trumps should be more worried about the people they fucked over, not the US government. Is there any doubt that hundreds, if not thousands, of lives were ruined because they bought into Trump's dream only to be backstabbed by him?
 
Because he truly believed that Pence could change the results of the election. Before the riot he said "...because if Mike does the right thing we win the election" and afterwards he savaged Pence for not doing what he wanted... "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution..."

He truly wanted Pence to delay the vote.

Right, wrong or indifferent, Trump believed that if the swing states were allowed to act on their irregularities THEY would change the results in their states and that would change the election.
 
He truly wanted Pence to delay the vote.

Right, wrong or indifferent, Trump believed that if the swing states were allowed to act on their irregularities THEY would change the results in their states and that would change the election.

I don't know why you and trumpers think the swing states had irregularities that weren't examined. IIRC there were a heck of a lot of examinations in those states and the results were the same, no cheating.
 
He truly wanted Pence to delay the vote.

Right, wrong or indifferent, Trump believed that if the swing states were allowed to act on their irregularities THEY would change the results in their states and that would change the election.

Of course he did, Opie. When Pence wouldn't do it, Trump ordered the attack. The irony is that Trump refused to pardon thousands of fans and just left them hanging. Thousands of lives ruined along with several dead and maimed. Thanks Trump! LOL

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"There's no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day," McConnell said

McConnell and other Republicans have done the calculations in their head, and they realize that acquitting trump will cost them dearly. Democrats won big.
 
Of course he did, Opie. When Pence wouldn't do it, Trump ordered the attack. The irony is that Trump refused to pardon thousands of fans and just left them hanging. Thousands of lives ruined along with several dead and maimed. Thanks Trump! LOL

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You think if you repeat the narrative often enough it becomes true, Carp lol?

You’re certain you’re not a lefty? You’re picking up some of their habits.
 
Stu CVRK is on it!

McConnell capitalized on Democrat-media attacks on the Tea Party. After beating down his own Tea Party-backed challenger in 2014, he was happy to work behind the scenes to undercut Tea Party people at every opportunity and elect “his kind of candidates” – those he could control through campaign contributions and other perks – as opposed to the limited government conservatives whom the Tea Party supported. And those senators he has helped elect and reelect over the years provide his power base and bloc support as minority (or majority) leader. McConnell and his cohort are all compromised, and thanks to President Trump, more Republican voters – and other Americans – have figured that out.

McConnell wants to use the same double-barreled strategy (direct attacks in conjunction with Democrat actions) against President Trump’s 75+ million supporters to regain Establishment Republican control of the Republican Party. Except that strategy won’t work this time for a variety of reasons:

McConnell’s public attacks galvanize support for President Trump, reminding them of all the reasons they despise back-stabbing Establishment Republicans. And everyone knows a RINO or two in their own home states who fill that bill.

The Tea Party morphed into a core element of Trump’s support base, which has the same concerns about political corruption and the ongoing undermining of the Constitution and cultural institutions.

The Tea Party-cum-Trump activists are smarter and even more red-pilled than they were in 2009. Once politically awakened and self-aware about Democrat-RINO-media lies, many of the Trump base are never going back to complacency and are hard at work retaking control of local Republican organizations from old RINOs.

Trump supporters aren’t just white Republicans; they include a broad spectrum of Americans, including many minorities, independents, and even Democrats (or former Democrats!).

Democrat support for BLM and Antifa shocked Trump supporters who support law and order and the police. Trump Republicans aren’t going to give control of their party back to Establishment Republicans, who were virtually silent about the violence in 2020. The only question is whether Trump independents and Democrats will join in that battle, too.

Biden’s rash of transparently anti-American executive orders engenders no pushback from Establishment Republicans. Americans are shocked at the destructive actions taken by the left-wing Biden administration. The very public reversal of President Trump’s agenda is an in-your-face reminder of the true Biden-Harris globalist and socialist agenda, and it’s the antithesis of “Making America Great Again.”

Trump Republicans are aghast at the perfidy and traitorous actions of RINOs in Congress who voted to impeach in the House and convict in the Senate. Support among Republican voters for a third party is at an all-time high, signaling political disaster for Establishment Republicans and McConnell’s compromise agenda.

Their home state Republican Party organizations have already censured many RINOs in Congress who voted to impeach and convict. Home state Republicans know that Establishment Republicans have bailed out on President Trump and are taking action. Primary challengers to some of those RINOs have already declared themselves, too.
The Tea Party was amorphous and essentially leaderless, with no real national figure around whom to rally. President Trump isn’t going anywhere and has thrown down the gauntlet!
https://redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2021/02/17/mitch-miscalculated-bigly-n328212
 
A delay is not an obstruction—it’s a delay. Trump had no intention of ‘stopping’ the vote.

The delay was intended to allow the swing states to review/present their irregularities. But that objective was blown up by the rioters when they rushed the Capitol.

You might think this question is irrelevant but it will come up if there’s ever a criminal trial. Unless the defense is brain dead, they are going to ask the prosecution what Trump’s motive was in ‘inciting’ the riot.

And they won’t be able to simply deflect on it or will be a very short trial.

You weave a wild ass story & then ask others to prove it....:palm::palm::palm:

Ask yourself who the fuck is he to delay anything omar?? He has no right to do so PERIOD-NONE..

You can speculate & ask others to do the same, the fact remains he brought about an insurrection for whatever his goal/logic was...

Pence acted lawfully, doing his duty along w/ the others there, trump UNLAWFULLY attempted to stop or delay, what don't you get here???:thinking:
 
It is remarkable that when even Mitch McConnell does not believe the Kracken tales, but Darth Omar still does.

Omar likes him some fresh made moonshine, made w/ sour grape koolaid, melted snowflakes & a few drops maga tears.. Up in them thar hills they call it sucker punch..........:laugh::laugh:
 
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