Maybe a conservative can explain, the Repiblicans are going to "repeal" the ACA,

Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
(laughing) Thanks, no. Since you already know the answer, just like the ACA, I can opt out. Fine me.

"No you can't. You can try but there is no opting out here!" G #181

I did.
I liked my healthcare plan.
I kept my healthcare plan.
I was w/ the VA then.
I'm w/ the VA now.

Some reports indicate the VA is one of the best run healthcare providers in the nation. And the Syracuse, NY VA hospital is fabulous! It's stupendous what they accomplish there.
 
Guille said:
I think you're wrong. We're treating insurance policies as if they're a right and I don't think there were great reforms in the ACA. We could have fixed a lot of problems by putting certain people on Medicare/Medicaid. The ACA was unnecessary.
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Medicare for all?

I'd have to say that you're assessment may have been valid in 1968. Not now when health care costs are nearly 20% of GDP. The notion that major reforms were not needed is just another example of Ostrich science.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Medicare for all?

I'd have to say that you're assessment may have been valid in 1968. Not now when health care costs are nearly 20% of GDP. The notion that major reforms were not needed is just another example of Ostrich science.
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Not Medicare for all, just for when you need it. How is that any different than food stamps?
 
Guille said:
The real question is why would you have to pay a fine?
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I don't. I've had great health insurance my entire working career.

Why a fine? Well, Guille, I thought you were smarter than that. I already posted why.

"If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment."

healthcare.gov
 
domer76 said:
I don't. I've had great health insurance my entire working career.

Why a fine? Well, Guille, I thought you were smarter than that. I already posted why.

"If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment."

healthcare.gov
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You keep avoiding the "why" part. I don't blame you.
 
Bigdog said:
No, the people who eat right and exercise can NOT afford to pay for everyone else. You have tricked the millenials and the middle class into paying other people's bills, so the democrat politicians can buy votes.

Rush: A man who pays his own way, pays his own healthcare costs, so it's none of your business whether he lost weight and quit smoking ... or not.
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Oh, that's Rush, the drug addict?
 
J #191

I don't know whether Rush is still a drug addict or not. For all I know, he's in recovery.

BUT !!

He's still a hypocrite.
 
Bigdog said:
I have plenty of experience running old timey registers, so I know exactly what you're saying. And if the electricity went out, you popped a crank handle in the side and kept ringing up customers ... and you could still accept credit cards with the old paper form, slide machines when the power went out. Unlike today where business comes to a dead halt.

I've also tutored math to jr. high students and at college. I blame the teachers. Unlike parents, they acutally get paid by taxpayer to teach the kids. Teachers are the professionals. And parents not being able to help their kids with the "new math" (or any math) is so prevalent, it has become a staple in many sitcom skits.

Teachers LET, what seems like 90% of kids, graduate HS without ever having memorized their multiplication tables.
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My first real job had those manual registers. Often, a customer would tell me that the item I rang up is actually on sale, and the ticket is wrong. Within seconds, I would do the math in my head, and deduct the difference from the next item.

I have to disgree with your assessment of teachers. There is no such thing as a top level student who didn't have a strong support system in the home. Are standards lower today? By about 75%. But why do we still see some students graduating with honors, and continuing to do well in college, when they attended the same school as the failures?

Parents.
 
Bigdog said:
Employers avoid paying a lot of payroll taxes by offering insurance benefits as part of a pay package. And many people won't leave a BAD job for fear of losing their health insurance, so it's also a way for employers to "trap" workers in a job.
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Agree. ACA changed a lot of that.
 
sear said:
J #191

I don't know whether Rush is still a drug addict or not. For all I know, he's in recovery.

BUT !!

He's still a hypocrite.
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I thought once an addict, always an addict even if in recovery?
 
Someone explain to me how they are going to repeal it with less than 51 votes?
 
Guille said:
You sure you want to go with this?

The whole thing doesn't have to be repealed, just the mandate.
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You lose the pre existing condition issue then. Of course,if you want to repeal Reagan's EMTALA, you might be able to repeal the mandate. Many people would purchase insurance if they were greeted at the hospital with 'cash, or credit card?'
 
Guille said:
I think you're wrong. We're treating insurance policies as if they're a right and I don't think there were great reforms in the ACA. We could have fixed a lot of problems by putting certain people on Medicare/Medicaid. The ACA was unnecessary.
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Of course the ACA was unnecessary. But using Medicare for a public option would have put the private insurers out of business. Obama gave the insurance industry a chance to do the right thing. Sooner or later, we're going to see a public option.
 
Queen Snowflake said:
You heard, do you have proof? I know that several millions have health insurance they wouldn't have without ACA because of pre existing conditions. Lower income people are the working class, too, just because they make less does not discount the fact that they work.
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Overwhelmingly those who don't like ACA are those who got insurance from an employer, and now pay more. In many cases, they didn't realize that their employers were simply passing costs on to employees, and using the law as a scapegoat.
 
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