Maine Governor wants to stop EBT being used for candy/soft drinks

Rana said:
Well, again, we have to agree to disagree because those economist that I read and trust don't agree with your economists. It is another scare tactic of the Republicans to get Congress to cut benefits which doesn't have to be done. Congress just needs to quit raiding the fund and if any fix is needed in the future, simply raising the tax cap will do the job.
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Ok, raising the tax cap. That's not leaving the system as it is. It was all over the news yesterday about the shortages S.S. is facing. It has nothing to do with Republicans or scare tactics. These are facts.
 
Rana said:
Well, again, we have to agree to disagree because those economist that I read and trust don't agree with your economists. It is another scare tactic of the Republicans to get Congress to cut benefits which doesn't have to be done. Congress just needs to quit raiding the fund and if any fix is needed in the future, simply raising the tax cap will do the job.
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Sounds to me as if your trust is based on agreement.

I ran a few numbers on the SS benefits calculator to confirm what I already knew. The input it needed included date of birth, earnings in the current year, and the month/year in which the person planned to start drawing SS. I ran it twice. The only parameter I changed was current income with one being 4x greater than the other. I think I used $25,000 and $100,000. The specifics don't matter just that one was 4x that of the other. What I found was that the person making 4x as much wouldn't get 4x as much when he/she started getting SS despite both putting in the same percentage of their income each check.


Why shouldn't the person making 4x as much, which means they're putting in 4x as much, get out 4x as much? I already know what your answer is but, like my running of the number, only want to confirm it.

The distribution is already disproportionate in favor of the lower income person compared to their contributions yet your only answer is to make it more so unless you're willing to agree that if someone puts in to the system at a rate that is X times greater than another person that the person putting in that X times more gets the X time greater distribution when they start drawing out. You lefties talk about equality. Let's see if you apply it here or only when it's something for which you agree.
 
cawacko said:
Ok, raising the tax cap. That's not leaving the system as it is. It was all over the news yesterday about the shortages S.S. is facing. It has nothing to do with Republicans or scare tactics. These are facts.
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Raising the cap will only make the disproportionate amount lower income workers get back compared to higher income workers worse.

Running the numbers on the SS benefits calculator I confirmed what I already knew. It showed me that someone putting in at a 4x time higher amount than another person only gets slightly over 2x more than that other person when they both draw out of it.
 
cawacko said:
Ok, raising the tax cap. That's not leaving the system as it is. It was all over the news yesterday about the shortages S.S. is facing. It has nothing to do with Republicans or scare tactics. These are facts.
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How else cozld you fix something but to make a change?
 
Rune said:
How else cozld you fix something but to make a change?
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She claimed I was wrong that we could have current benefits going forward with making no changes. You would know this if you had read the thread like you claimed.
 
cawacko said:
And get some conspiracy virus on my computer? No thanks. I've already posted what percent of the budget military spending is. Feel free to post what you've got.
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It isn't a conspiracy theory.
God damn.
Look it up on wiki if you are so scared. WTF
 
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