Low-Wage Jobs Dominate Employment Recovery

[Truth Detector]

Why does it seem that republican job creation strategies only extend to wars on abstractions such as crime, drugs, and terror?

They don't; that is a boring and ignorant leftist canard. Yay you!

 

[MAGA MAN]

Can you cite any previous public policies which did what you claim?

Yes I can.

 

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The job loss myth:

Summary: Reviews the past two decades of research on the impact of minimum wage increases on employment: this study concludes that the weight of the evidence points to little or no effect of minimum wage increases on job growth. The study also finds that a review of the minimum wage literature commonly cited by minimum wage opponents is flawed because it is subjective, relies in large part on studies of wage increases in foreign countries, and fails to consider the most sophisticated and recent minimum wage studies.

http://www.raisetheminimumwage.com/pages/job-loss

Irony; a study that claims minimum wage laws have LITTLE impact on job growth refuting the claims of this idiot of a President and then suggests that arguments they do impact jobs are subjective but silent on equally subjective claims the minimum wage will improve the conditions of the poor.

The real irony occurs when clueless low information leftist twits who elected this dunce of a President post the evidence of his failures thinking it shines a poor light on Republicans. They really are THAT ignorant, THAT naive and THAT stupid.

 

[Truth Detector]

So when you lefties don't like it all of a sudden the CBOs methodology is questionable?

BINGO; but only low information twits believe any projections put out by the CBO regardless of what party is in charge. It has a history of being completely wrong.

 

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So, what should we do? Force lower prices? If you can't increase wages, then what is your fix for helping people out of poverty? People don't want to increase money for education because they claim our school system is broken, education brings people out of poverty. Should we ban automation? Fix the infastructure?

People who criticize never seem to offer solutions.

What are your fixes, more tanks?

I'm not surprised that you're clueless about how to fix the job problem in this country; most leftists are, Obama being the most evident. It's called job creation and free market competition and it occurs when you promote policies that encourage investment and risk taking. Not taxes and greater regulatory controls.

 

[danielpalos]

They don't; that is a boring and ignorant leftist canard. Yay you!

Yet, our war on drugs merely sacrifices the end of our war on poverty, to the means of the coercive use of force of the State. Isn't it the right that believes more in the coercive use of force of the State over Individual Liberty and any voluntary forms of abstinence.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes I can.

You are more than welcome to do so.

Here is something from our historical record:

Roosevelt was initially in favor of balancing the budget, but he soon found himself running spending deficits in order to fund the numerous programs he created. Douglas, however, rejecting the distinction between a regular and emergency budget, resigned in 1934 and became an outspoken critic of the New Deal. Roosevelt strenuously opposed the Bonus Bill that would give World War I veterans a cash bonus. Finally, Congress passed it over his veto in 1936, and the Treasury distributed $1.5 billion in cash as bonus welfare benefits to 4 million veterans just before the 1936 election.[40]

New Dealers never accepted the Keynesian argument for government spending as a vehicle for recovery. Most economists of the era, along with Henry Morgenthau of the Treasury Department, rejected Keynesian solutions and favored balanced budgets.[41]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal#Fiscal_policy

Our economy may not have been as developed as it was without that spending. Even the relative Socialism of a wartime economy is stated as a factor in ending the Great Depression. Even our wars on abstractions seem modeled after it.

 

[Truth Detector]

Can you show any long-term studies with graphs or charts that show minimum wage hikes are job killers? For instance the MW was raised during Clinton's presidency yet it was a period of economic growth. How many jobs were lost or gained during other hikes?[ /b]

As far as I'm concerned it's not about ideology but actual facts and numbers. There are arguments on both sides of the issue but it's not as cut and dried as conservatives like to think.

If you think that raising the minimum wage had anything to do with the economic high tech boom during Clintons Presidency, you just might be a low information voting fool. But of course low information dunces who credit Clintons policy with that boom also conveniently blame Bush or it's bust in 2000. Pretty damned stupid; but then you're Liberals and attracted to stupid.

Anytime you arbitrarily RAISE the cost of doing business, you are either going to increase inflation caused by corresponding price increases, OR, cause cost cutting measures like reducing labor costs. There are no other possible outcomes.

Anyone with a high school level comprehension of economics comprehends this.

But then Liberal fools also stupidly think that tax increases on corporations aren't passed onto all of us. Liberals really are THAT stupid.

 

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A good start would be to slash government spending to eliminate much of the waste. Then cut taxes across the board as well as end eliminate the corporate tax. Then raise the EITC and CTC. All of those things would make a workers dollar go farther without hurting businesses. There's plenty more but it's a good beginning

A better way would be to abolish the current tax code and supplant it witha Fair tax, eliminate unconstitutional and uneccesary Federal Departments like Education and Agriculture, eliminate ALL Federal subsidies and implement mandatory House and Senate term limits.

 

[danielpalos]

A better way would be to abolish the current tax code and supplant it witha Fair tax, eliminate unconstitutional and uneccesary Federal Departments like Education and Agriculture, eliminate ALL Federal subsidies and implement mandatory House and Senate term limits.

Why not just end our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror, instead? There is no delegated power to provide for the general warfare.

 

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Why not compensate unemployed labor with unemployment compensation that clears our poverty guidelines to solve that form of poverty in our republic. Such a public policy could be as simple as our current regime of minimum wage laws is now, but subscribe more to Individual Liberty under our form of Capitalism with its Institution of money based markets. We could lower our tax burden through simplification.

What a massive pile of unintelligible bile. Where do you lefties come up with this dogmatic crapola?

In other words, PRINT money. Yep, that has always worked well historically hasn't it? Better yet, pay for it by confiscating the wealth of those priveledged few at the top!!

 

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What's the waste that you want to eliminate?

Amazing; Liberals thinking that there is nothing to cut in a bloated Federal Bureacracy approaching a cost of FOUR trillion. No wonder clueless twits like you voted for a dunce like Obummer on nothing more substantive than "hope and change"!

 

[danielpalos]

What a massive pile of unintelligible bile. Where do you lefties come up with this dogmatic crapola?

In other words, PRINT money. Yep, that has always worked well historically hasn't it? Better yet, pay for it by confiscating the wealth of those priveledged few at the top!!

It helps if you understand the concepts; or, are you with the Ministry of Truth?

What is your opinion of a positive multiplier effect as it may relate to public policies?

 

[Truth Detector]

How does reducing government spending create more jobs?

Seriously? It's hard to take such clueless buffoonery seriously. Well, who do you think pays for that Government spending? You think the money just grows on trees?

Imagine, if you can, that the burden on taxpayers and business is reduced by a trillion dollars, which is where this Government costs were a mere five years ago. Where do you think the money that otherwise would be spent on higher taxes and paying for redundant Federal employees would go? Do you think it would just vanish into thin air?

 

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How about major cuts to the military and to foreign aid? The money for stemware is chump change compared to the billions we spend on just those two things.

Funny you mention stemware for $5 mil yet in the past ten years we spent $750 mil on the most expensive embassy in the world, our digs in Baghdad. Our tax dollars at work.

The military budget is a mere 19 percent of the total budget and is one of TWO Constitutionally mandated jobs of the Federal Government.

If you cut it to Zero it would not have an impact on wasteful Federal spending.

Unconstitutional things like mandatory Social Security spending, Medicare/Medicaid, Safety net programs and interest on the debt make up the bulk of Federal spending; approximately 70 percent.

I'm always amused when economically clueless Liberals point at defense spending as the primary culprit for runaway budget deficits promoted by dishonest politicians who stay elected by promising idiot low information voters something for nothing.

 

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You say that, but doesn't wealth concentration now, do virtually nothing for the labor market? I believe simply ending the capital gains distinction whenever we don't have full employment would do more.

I'm amused by the private wealth conentration canards; so concentrating the wealth of a nation within the Federal Government would have a better outcome for the labor market?

 

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Non-partisan, really? All of your examples occurred during the Obama administration. I never denied govt. spends frivolously, always has, always will. I do notice the conservative selectivity about what to cut or what to ignore. To date bush's immoral war is costing us over $1 trillion yet that fact has gone down the conservative memory hole. What about the borrowing, putting our country's economy in the hands of foreign lenders? What about your hero cheney and his "deficits don't matter"? Where are all the oil revenues that were supposed to cover war costs?

I think it's hilarious that you bring up the ACA yet ignore the massive ongoing financial drain from the bush years, so please don't try to pretend you're non-partisan.

LMAO @ the immoral war canard.

 

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Yet, our war on drugs merely sacrifices the end of our war on poverty, to the means of the coercive use of force of the State. Isn't it the right that believes more in the coercive use of force of the State over Individual Liberty and any voluntary forms of abstinence.

More gobbledeygook fom the economically clueless. There is no "war" on drugs. Society believes in placing curbs on drug use in this country as a necessary cause to prevent the really disastrous and deleterious effect it has on a society. In other words; common sense.

This canard is about as dimwitted as the clams of Bush's immoral wars. You people are not merely clueless, but repugnantly ignorant.

 

[danielpalos]

I'm amused by the private wealth conentration canards; so concentrating the wealth of a nation within the Federal Government would have a better outcome for the labor market?

You may be missing the point about the public sector having an official Mint at its disposal. How did FDR use it?

 

[danielpalos]

More gobbledeygook fom the economically clueless. There is no "war" on drugs. Society believes in placing curbs on drug use in this country as a necessary cause to prevent the really disastrous and deleterious effect it has on a society. In other words; common sense.

This canard is about as dimwitted as the clams of Bush's immoral wars. You people are not merely clueless, but repugnantly ignorant.

Only the right would not have a problem with auditing revenue centers instead of cost centers.