“lose-lose” scenario

Agreed. The US military is making a good call on not sending offensive weapons to Ukraine. It's not just the weapons but the precedent of US policy and, more importantly, an escalation of the war.

That said, sending over a $5-15M old jet, that is held together with band-aids and baling wire and will probably be shot down by Russian SAMs, is a waste of money compared sending the Ukrainians 25 to 85 $175K Javelins. Putin can't take Ukraine from the air so he has to win it on the ground. All free nations should support Ukraine defending their freedom. Kill all terrorists and Putin cocksuckers.

Send one Stinger for ever 10-20 Javelins too. They're great for shooting down both attack and troop carrier helicopters.

war machine. war machine. war machine.
 
Another data point. Learn how to properly quote someone, dumbass.

The point remains the same; you quoted him which means you are commenting on the quote given your earlier conspiracy theories about the CIA and Mossad.

no the point doesnt remain the same.

john brennan is weak for using the royal we. you fucking idiot.
 
you're a nitpicking imbecile.

Maybe, maybe not.
war machine. war machine. war machine.

Why do you support Putin overrunning Ukraine? You're appeasing Putin just like Chamberlain appeased Hitler as pointed out earlier.

Why the inconsistency? Is it because you hate America just like I said?
no the point doesnt remain the same.

john brennan is weak for using the royal we. you fucking idiot.
Jesus fucking Christ you're a moron. No wonder you're being set up as a patsy.

First, you don't know how to properly quote something on JPP so people can tell the difference between a quote and a statement.

Second, you didn't cite the reference and I can't find Brennan saying it even though it sounds good to me. Using Intelligence over "facts" is part of the job. He's the head of the CIA. Do I really need to tell you what the fucking "I" stands for, Fredo?

As the leader of a group, it would be proper to use the Royal "we" when a person is speaking on behalf of the group. If the quote is true, I'm guessing he was speaking for the CIA.
 
That's the issue. It might digest Ukraine without the arms the West has supplied, and it still might, but without that and the sanctions it would be more likely to become emboldened elsewhere.
not really. NATO would kick Russia's ass with or without being in Uk.
 
The only thing "tough" about the truth is that some people are too fucking weak to take it.

Ukrainians defending their homeland from Putin's War are not the fucking same as Napoleon attacking Russia. Look at the tactics of the Russians against the French and you'll soon see similar ones being used by the Ukrainians against the Russians. https://www.history.com/news/napoleons-disastrous-invasion-of-russia

Ukrainians are defending their homes and their homeland. They don't want to be Russian or be in Russia. Most of the Russian soldiers don't want to be in Ukraine which is why Putin is offering the job to Syrian mercenaries.
Change the subject much?
 
If you know that Russia certainly knows it and the second half of your thread's argument goes down the drain.
the thread OP has 3 concepts.

1. sanctions dont work -they are delayed and can cause escalated moves by Putin

2.they cause economic misery for those putting on sanctions as well
( Russia withholding fertilizer -wait till the spring growing season has shortages and price hikes)

3.and your contention- and in the OP- it keeps Russia from doing it again
(my contention that was never going to happen and certainly not after Uk)
 
Maybe, maybe not.

Why do you support Putin overrunning Ukraine? You're appeasing Putin just like Chamberlain appeased Hitler as pointed out earlier.

Why the inconsistency? Is it because you hate America just like I said?
Jesus fucking Christ you're a moron. No wonder you're being set up as a patsy.

First, you don't know how to properly quote something on JPP so people can tell the difference between a quote and a statement.

Second, you didn't cite the reference and I can't find Brennan saying it even though it sounds good to me. Using Intelligence over "facts" is part of the job. He's the head of the CIA. Do I really need to tell you what the fucking "I" stands for, Fredo?

As the leader of a group, it would be proper to use the Royal "we" when a person is speaking on behalf of the group. If the quote is true, I'm guessing he was speaking for the CIA.

No. he's weak and insecure.

you nailed it the first time.
 
not really. NATO would kick Russia's ass with or without being in Uk.

We'd never know because it would go nuclear immediately. Can you think of anything more stupid than surrounding Russia with a string of weak countries that you've promised to sacrifice 334 million Americans for ? How does that sit with a government's first duty of the well-being of its people ?
 
The purpose of the sanctions is pretty obvious.

It's not a "lose lose." What's the alternative? Is this a "we should stay out of this" piece of propaganda thread?
 
The purpose of the sanctions is pretty obvious.

It's not a "lose lose." What's the alternative? Is this a "we should stay out of this" piece of propaganda thread?
Of course it is lose/lose Shithead.
All war is. Only the Banksters and the MIC gain.
Why are you posting here?
Fucking prog moron.
 
the thread OP has 3 concepts.

1. sanctions dont work -they are delayed and can cause escalated moves by Putin

2.they cause economic misery for those putting on sanctions as well
( Russia withholding fertilizer -wait till the spring growing season has shortages and price hikes)

3.and your contention- and in the OP- it keeps Russia from doing it again
(my contention that was never going to happen and certainly not after Uk)

That Putin's Russia would never "do it again" seems a weak contention unless the price paid for doing it a first time is especially heavy.
 
That Putin's Russia would never "do it again" seems a weak contention unless the price paid for doing it a first time is especially heavy.

Agreed that Putin is the problem. However, if the Russians don't stop him then Russia becomes the problem.
 
Agreed that Putin is the problem. However, if the Russians don't stop him then Russia becomes the problem.

Might well be a lesser problem, as prior Russian successive leaders sometimes proved to be. In this case, Putin's ego is uniquely engaged in what has become a nasty experience for Russia however it ends.
 
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