LIfe in "Conservative Christian" America?

Damn Yankee said:
Appeal to popularity, appeal to authority, name-calling. :)
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SM, calling names is your strong suit. No points for either of us there.

The logical fallacy "Appeal to Authority" is based on using someone without expertise in the area in question as an authority. I did not do that.

Appeal to Popularity? lol No, I did not commit that fallacy either.

But I did quote authorities in a specific area that showed it fit the definition of "natural" that you provided.
 
Appeal to Popularity:
Post #62 “The worlds major religions are the recognized main sources that define morality.”

Appeal to Popularity:
Post #64 “There will always be folks with views that differ from the mainstream. That doesn't re-define morality.”
 
2 punished after disabled gays told to leave pool

ZappasGuitar said:
Bible cited as reason for kicking gay men out of public pool


Activists in Kentucky are planning a peaceful response after two gay men with developmental and intellectual disabilities were kicked out of a public pool.

A maintenance technician reportedly cited the Bible while telling the two men they couldn't swim at The Pavilion, a government-funded recreational facility in Hazard, Kentucky.

"We own this place and can tell you to leave if we want to," the couple was told, according to the Kentucky Equality Foundation.

"The Pavilion staff immediately entered the pool area and asked my clients and their staff to leave the Pavilion," Mending Hearts Executive Director Shirlyn Perkins recalled. "My staff asked The Pavilion staff why they were being asked to leave, and they were informed that 'gay people' weren't allowed to swim there."

"My staff told this man that what he was trying to do was discrimination. The man stated that what he was doing was in the Bible and he could do it. My staff continued to argue with this man, but was ultimately forced to leave. My clients, whom already feel ridiculed and different, left the city owned facility crying and embarrassed for trying to participate in 'normal' activities that everyday 'normal' people do," she added.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/14/bible-cited-as-reason-for-kicking-gay-men-out-of-public-pool/
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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- An employee at a public swimming pool in eastern Kentucky was suspended for a week without pay after telling two disabled gay men to leave, city of Hazard officials said Saturday.

The suspended city employee Kim Haynes told investigators that the two men were engaged in an excessive display of affection June 10, and that he would have told any other couple to leave had he seen similar behavior. Haynes, however, also acknowledged he said "We don't tolerate that kind of activity around here" and cited the Bible in an argument with Laura Quillen, a member of the social service group Mending Hearts, which was overseeing the group.

Quillen told investigators the men did nothing inappropriate.

According to a report released by city attorney Paul R. Collins, summing up the conflicting accounts, at least one witness saw the men "standing `man to man' or `belly to belly' in the pool . splashing each other with water and pushing each other under the water." The witness "also said he observed them hug each other on at least one occasion" and give each other a kiss, the report said.

Pearlman and Haynes were not at work on Saturday and could not be reached by the newspaper for comment by telephone.

Meanwhile, dozens of people rallied at the pool Saturday in support of the gay men.

"It's time that people stood up for people. It's just the right thing to do," Marsha Morgan from Leslie County told WYMT-TV.

Jordan Palmer, president of the Kentucky Equality Federation, said the men were discriminated against.

"There was not kissing, and there was nothing of that sort. One of them sat on the other's knee and that was it," said Jordan Palmer, president of the Kentucky Equality Federation.

The manager of the Hazard Pavilion also was reprimanded for unbecoming conduct, The Courier-Journal reported. Charlotte Pearlman used inappropriate and obscene language when declining comment to a television news crew, the city said.

The city also said new anti-discrimination signs will be posted at the pool, as well as signs warning against excessive public displays of affection.
by AP
 
signalmankenneth said:
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- An employee at a public swimming pool in eastern Kentucky was suspended for a week without pay after telling two disabled gay men to leave, city of Hazard officials said Saturday.

The suspended city employee Kim Haynes told investigators that the two men were engaged in an excessive display of affection June 10, and that he would have told any other couple to leave had he seen similar behavior. Haynes, however, also acknowledged he said "We don't tolerate that kind of activity around here" and cited the Bible in an argument with Laura Quillen, a member of the social service group Mending Hearts, which was overseeing the group.

Quillen told investigators the men did nothing inappropriate.

According to a report released by city attorney Paul R. Collins, summing up the conflicting accounts, at least one witness saw the men "standing `man to man' or `belly to belly' in the pool . splashing each other with water and pushing each other under the water." The witness "also said he observed them hug each other on at least one occasion" and give each other a kiss, the report said.

Pearlman and Haynes were not at work on Saturday and could not be reached by the newspaper for comment by telephone.

Meanwhile, dozens of people rallied at the pool Saturday in support of the gay men.

"It's time that people stood up for people. It's just the right thing to do," Marsha Morgan from Leslie County told WYMT-TV.

Jordan Palmer, president of the Kentucky Equality Federation, said the men were discriminated against.

"There was not kissing, and there was nothing of that sort. One of them sat on the other's knee and that was it," said Jordan Palmer, president of the Kentucky Equality Federation.

The manager of the Hazard Pavilion also was reprimanded for unbecoming conduct, The Courier-Journal reported. Charlotte Pearlman used inappropriate and obscene language when declining comment to a television news crew, the city said.

The city also said new anti-discrimination signs will be posted at the pool, as well as signs warning against excessive public displays of affection.
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What a sad day for America when two men with developmental disabilities who care about each other can't give one another a hug in public without being the focus of reprisal by some ignorant hillbilly with a bit of power.
 
signalmankenneth said:
The suspended city employee Kim Haynes told investigators that the two men were engaged in an excessive display of affection June 10, and that he would have told any other couple to leave had he seen similar behavior.
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As predicted:

Damn Yankee said:
The article is a good example of biased reporting. The author simply leaves out pertinent information that would let the reader decide for himself if the action taken was appropriate. Along with that he focused on non-peecee comments from a janitor. I'm not surprised that Zap fell for it.

I'm guessing that these two gays with "with developmental and intellectual disabilities" were getting it on in the facility, and they needed to get kicked out.
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No, morality is defined by the world's major religions. That's hardly an appeal to popularity, which is a simple majority.
 
Damn Yankee said:
No, morality is defined by the world's major religions. That's hardly an appeal to popularity, which is a simple majority.
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So you claim to have won because of my appeal to popularity (please point out where), my appeal to authority (you were just wrong here), and because of insults? lol

So you claim to have won, not because you presented a good debate, but because you think I made mistakes?



Where were you when I was in debates in school?
 
I scored three debate points, you scored none. What conclusion can thus be made?

Yes I debated in school, and won more often than lost, just like here.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I scored three debate points, you scored none. What conclusion can thus be made?

Yes I debated in school, and won more often than lost, just like here.
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I don't recall any appeal to popularity. But what you called "appeal to authority" is absolutely not. As the definition said, it is a logical fallacy when you use someone without expertise on the topic. But using an exert in the field of teh topic is perfectly acceptable. Quoting zoologists and biologists would be experts on the topic.

And insults gain no points on these forums. (I did a quick search on how many times you have used the insult "Dumbass", and the total stands at 13)
 
I didn't use "dumbass" at you during this debate. And insults during a debate certainly do count as points- that has been my rule from day one here.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I didn't use "dumbass" at you during this debate. And insults during a debate certainly do count as points- that has been my rule from day one here.
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Yes, you are fond of making that claim in one thread and then spouting insults in another. Did I insult you? Cite.
 
The post I was quoting was stupid. It fits. (To you your defense, its not an insult if its true)

I lose? Because I insulted you? lmao Wow, you have a lot of losses out there then. No SM, you can't spout insults with the regularity you do and then claim points when you get insulted.

So you have claimed 2 logical fallacies. Care to cite those?

I mean, since you can't debate the issue we may as well play this game.
 
I have no desire to play games. If you can't admit something as inconsequential as an insult, that says it all as far as I'm concerned.
 
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