AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
You had no point. All you do is copying others. You don't know how to be original."The point" did an airplane... right over your head. Sad.
You're a broken man.
LGBTQ rights in Russia
You're a broken man.
Scott
Verified User
How you came to the conclusion that I want to marginalize straight people, I have no idea. Would you like to explain?
Scott
Verified User
You thought wrong.
What I'd like is for people to focus on LGBTQ movements that actually exist. You and others may find it fun to make up LGBTQ movements for your own amusement, but I'm not interested in such fictional entities.
Scott
Verified User
Unfortunately, I do not accept Wikipedia as a valid source for anything. This is because their information is too often incomplete, misleading, or downright WRONG. It can also be edited by anyone (so long as that person is a card-carrying uber leftist).LGBTQ movement is -almost- correct. It's just that there's more than 1 of them:
LGBTQ movements - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I frequently don't agree with what's on Wikipedia either. That being said, I think that when it comes to most subjects, it's a good place to start. I definitely think that's the case when it comes to LGBTQ movements. I see that you have responded to points made in said Wikipedia article, I'll get to that in the next post.
Scott
Verified User
WRONG. LGBTQ is a movementLGBTQ movement is -almost- correct. It's just that there's more than 1 of them:
LGBTQ movements - Wikipedia
Quoting from Wikipedia's introduction of the subject:
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Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) movements are social movements that advocate for the inclusion, recognition, and rights of LGBTQ people and other gender and sexual minorities.
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I have to stop you right there. The wish of those on the right to try to glom all LGBTQ movements into one is just plain wrong. There have been -various- LGBTQ movements, usually spearheaded by organizations. Here are the ones I saw mentioned in Wikipedia's LGBTQ movements article that actually have Wikipedia articles of their own:
First homosexual movement - Wikipedia
Homophile movement - Wikipedia
Gay liberation - Wikipedia
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Scott
Verified User
The phrase "advance related causes" is just LGBTQLMNOPALPHABETSOUP+ codespeak for SUPREMACY for ALL card-carrying members.LGBTQ movement is -almost- correct. It's just that there's more than 1 of them:
LGBTQ movements - Wikipedia
Quoting from Wikipedia's introduction of the subject:
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Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) movements are social movements that advocate for the inclusion, recognition, and rights of LGBTQ people and other gender and sexual minorities.
While there is no overarching organization representing all LGBTQ people, numerous advocacy groups, grassroots networks, and community-based organizations work to advance related causes. The earliest known LGBTQ rights organization was the Scientific-Humanitarian Committee, founded in Berlin in 1897.
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2 points:
1- I'm 99.99% sure that your "LGBTQLMNOP..." doesn't actually exist.
2- Since it's highly unlikely that this "LGBTQLMNOP..." you mention actually exists, it stands to reason that it has no "card-carrying members".
Scott
Verified User
So when is the next (the first) "LGBTQ rights rally" in Dearborn? What about Somalia? Uganda? Iran?LGBTQ movement is -almost- correct. It's just that there's more than 1 of them:
LGBTQ movements - Wikipedia
Quoting from Wikipedia's introduction of the subject:
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Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) movements are social movements that advocate for the inclusion, recognition, and rights of LGBTQ people and other gender and sexual minorities.
While there is no overarching organization representing all LGBTQ people, numerous advocacy groups, grassroots networks, and community-based organizations work to advance related causes. The earliest known LGBTQ rights organization was the Scientific-Humanitarian Committee, founded in Berlin in 1897.
Common goals of LGBTQ movements is equal rights for LGBTQ people. Specific goals include the decriminalization of homosexuality [snip]
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Do you think I have a crystal ball that would allow me to know when, or even if, such things will come to pass?
Scott
Verified User
Already exists in the USA.LGBTQ movement is -almost- correct. It's just that there's more than 1 of them:
LGBTQ movements - Wikipedia
Quoting from Wikipedia's introduction of the subject:
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Common goals of LGBTQ movements is equal rights for LGBTQ people. Specific goals include the decriminalization of homosexuality, legal recognition of same-sex relationships
Almost. Same-sex marriage is neither recognized or performed in some tribal nations in the US:
Same-sex marriage in tribal nations in the United States - Wikipedia
It is recognized but not performed in American Samoa:
Same-sex marriage in American Samoa - Wikipedia
As to the rest of the world:
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Same-sex marriage, also known as gay marriage or same-gender marriage, is the marriage of two people of the same legal sex or gender. As of 2025, marriage between same-sex couples is legally performed and recognized in 38 countries, with a total population of 1.5 billion people (20% of the world's population). The most recent jurisdiction to legalize same-sex marriage is Thailand.
Same-sex marriage is legally recognized in a large majority of the world's developed countries; notable exceptions are Italy, Japan, South Korea, and the Czech Republic. Adoption rights are not necessarily covered, though most states with same-sex marriage allow those couples to jointly adopt as other married couples can. Some countries, such as Nigeria and Russia, restrict advocacy for same-sex marriage. A few of these are among the 35 countries (as of 2023) that constitutionally define marriage to prevent marriage between couples of the same sex, with most of those provisions enacted in recent decades as a preventative measure. Other countries have constitutionally mandated Islamic law, which is generally interpreted as prohibiting marriage between same-sex couples. In six of the former and most of the latter, homosexuality itself is criminalized.
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Source:
Same-sex marriage - Wikipedia
Scott
Verified User
Nope... They instead want protections against the usurpation of their SUPREMACY.LGBTQ movement is -almost- correct. It's just that there's more than 1 of them:
LGBTQ movements - Wikipedia
Quoting from Wikipedia's introduction of the subject:
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Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) movements are social movements that advocate for the inclusion, recognition, and rights of LGBTQ people and other gender and sexual minorities.
While there is no overarching organization representing all LGBTQ people, numerous advocacy groups, grassroots networks, and community-based organizations work to advance related causes. The earliest known LGBTQ rights organization was the Scientific-Humanitarian Committee, founded in Berlin in 1897.
Common goals of LGBTQ movements is equal rights for LGBTQ people. Specific goals include the decriminalization of homosexuality, legal recognition of same-sex relationships, protections against discrimination [snip]
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Your notion that all LGBTQ people are in the same boat is fatally flawed. As I've mentioned in post #409, in some countries, it's a crime to simply -be- homosexual. Once more for anyone who missed said post:
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Same-sex marriage is legally recognized in a large majority of the world's developed countries; notable exceptions are Italy, Japan, South Korea, and the Czech Republic. Adoption rights are not necessarily covered, though most states with same-sex marriage allow those couples to jointly adopt as other married couples can. Some countries, such as Nigeria and Russia, restrict advocacy for same-sex marriage. A few of these are among the 35 countries (as of 2023) that constitutionally define marriage to prevent marriage between couples of the same sex, with most of those provisions enacted in recent decades as a preventative measure. Other countries have constitutionally mandated Islamic law, which is generally interpreted as prohibiting marriage between same-sex couples. In six of the former and most of the latter, homosexuality itself is criminalized.
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Source:
Same-sex marriage - Wikipedia
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
There's no movements being made up. Every single LGBTQ movement has the same umbrella goal of gaining/retaining SUPREMACY over others. They don't seek equality; they seek "special treatment".
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Nope. This is just more of your supremacy propaganda.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
I'd make sense if you were educated.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Sure. Your movement attacks straight people who don't acknowledge your supremacy. You call them your oppressive victimizers, while you refer to yourself as an oppressed victim suffering in oppressive victimhood.
You seek to marginalize straight people and normalize LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+ supremacy.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
That's not his notion. His notion is that all the people in the same LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+ movement boat are unique, totally different people.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
I see no point in quibbling over "movement" vs "movements". It's effectively a single movement because all such movements have the same overarching goal of retaining supremacy over others.I have to stop you right there. The wish of those on the right to try to glom all LGBTQ movements into one is just plain wrong. There have been -various- LGBTQ movements, usually spearheaded by organizations. Here are the ones I saw mentioned in Wikipedia's LGBTQ movements article that actually have Wikipedia articles of their own:
First homosexual movement - Wikipedia
Homophile movement - Wikipedia
Gay liberation - Wikipedia
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
You're purposely taking this too literally (and missing the humor) to avoid the cold hard truth that all such "LGBTQ-related" movements have the same overarching goal of retaining SUPREMACY over others.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
You're missing the point... it's not truly about WHEN, it's about WHY any such events haven't ever been held in any of those places...
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Nope. This is what you are doing. You are the one fleeing to the hills. You are the one insisting on shutting down the conversation. You are the one going apoplectic over my not recognizing LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+ supremacy.
I, on the other hand, have listened to everything you have said, i.e. every word of your "I AM SUCH A VICTIM! WE ARE SUCH VICTIMS!" supremacist propaganda, and you haven't said anything beyond that. JPP is supposed to believe that Russia is so terrible for not allowing members of the LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+ movement to be above the law. I wish you the best of luck with that, but I won't be adopting your position. I believe Russia is doing the right thing by disallowing anyone from commiting public indecency. I do not believe that makes a VICTIM! out of anyone in the LGBTTQQIAXXXXXXX+ movement.
How am I wrong?